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GaryChandler
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Does anyone else have problems with spending money on anything other than gambling??Mr McStreak wrote:but strangely what pissed me off was the fact my train fare had gone up 40p. I was more bothered about that.
Like today i got charged £2 for a breakfast sub that i thought should have been £1, which is a quid, but i was incensed, yet whatever i lost on a fruit machine would have been acceptable.
I think not wishing to use money for anything other than gambling is one of the main signs of addiction.
It's hard to explain really, only people that suffer from it will be able to explain.
Ok
Joking aside
Some of you guys , and you know who you are.
Are displaying signs of problem gambling.....
Nope forget that you DO have a problem with gambling.
You may not want to hear this but here goes anyway....
Most of you guys are quite young compared to me , and yes I have been just where you are now , years ago I was the big shot on the machines , In those days it was more about what we called meat feeding rather than serious inside knowledge but the result was the same .... loads of cash.
Eventually it overtook me and instead of being a good earner it became my life and an obsession.
Every penny was for gambling , nothing was for food rent clothes etc etc.
If I had a pocket of change and had to but something small I would rather use a note than touch my precious gambling money...
Eventually it took me over and I fucked everything up the wall and soon I never even had stake money because I lost control.
I ended up selling my stuff .not paying rent and borrowing from friends who I never paid back and then lost those friends.
I could go on and on about failed relationships due to gambling etc....
What saved me ?
One day I was so low I could have considered suicide so I called Gamblers anonymous and had a long chat and went to a meeting .....
Yes it took balls to stand up in a room and admit I was in serious trouble but I did it and suddenly realised I was amongst friends!
It took a long time but the support was amazing and I got my self esteem back.
Guys pleas please please do not let yourself go down the road I did it was truly horrific for many years because of bloody machines.
Please get help now even if you want to PM for a chat I wont say a word to anyone but I promise if you are displaying these problems now it will get worse and you will end up with nothing no matter how good you think you are.
I was lucky as years and years later I was able to enjoy casinos and I can control myself but I am always aware of how easy it is to slip.
There is no shame in having a problem and even if you have to step away from the machines and get a job , trust me its a whole lot better than what could happen .
Joking aside
Some of you guys , and you know who you are.
Are displaying signs of problem gambling.....
Nope forget that you DO have a problem with gambling.
You may not want to hear this but here goes anyway....
Most of you guys are quite young compared to me , and yes I have been just where you are now , years ago I was the big shot on the machines , In those days it was more about what we called meat feeding rather than serious inside knowledge but the result was the same .... loads of cash.
Eventually it overtook me and instead of being a good earner it became my life and an obsession.
Every penny was for gambling , nothing was for food rent clothes etc etc.
If I had a pocket of change and had to but something small I would rather use a note than touch my precious gambling money...
Eventually it took me over and I fucked everything up the wall and soon I never even had stake money because I lost control.
I ended up selling my stuff .not paying rent and borrowing from friends who I never paid back and then lost those friends.
I could go on and on about failed relationships due to gambling etc....
What saved me ?
One day I was so low I could have considered suicide so I called Gamblers anonymous and had a long chat and went to a meeting .....
Yes it took balls to stand up in a room and admit I was in serious trouble but I did it and suddenly realised I was amongst friends!
It took a long time but the support was amazing and I got my self esteem back.
Guys pleas please please do not let yourself go down the road I did it was truly horrific for many years because of bloody machines.
Please get help now even if you want to PM for a chat I wont say a word to anyone but I promise if you are displaying these problems now it will get worse and you will end up with nothing no matter how good you think you are.
I was lucky as years and years later I was able to enjoy casinos and I can control myself but I am always aware of how easy it is to slip.
There is no shame in having a problem and even if you have to step away from the machines and get a job , trust me its a whole lot better than what could happen .
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Matt Vinyl
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Petera: This may be a rare occasion, but I fully agree with you here. If someone 'holds back' spending money on things because they want to use it to fund gambling, that is at least the start of a problem, if it is not full-blown yet. 
"And do you ever contradict yourself, Minister?" "Well, yes and no..."
Well i used to be a fully fledged gambling addict, where winning wasn't actually a goal, i had simply dropped out of life, but circumstances like family deaths contributed to this, i'm sure there's been a catalyst in a fair few people's paths down the road to addiction, the heaviest times i've gambled have always been at extreme times of happiness or sadness.
Nowadays i play to win, but there's always this lurking feeling inside that pops up. I firmly believe that once you're an addict you're an addict for life, and no matter how long you havn't gambled for, there's always that demon in you waiting to get out.
It's not just gambling that gets most of my money now though, the GF has her say too
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Nowadays i play to win, but there's always this lurking feeling inside that pops up. I firmly believe that once you're an addict you're an addict for life, and no matter how long you havn't gambled for, there's always that demon in you waiting to get out.
It's not just gambling that gets most of my money now though, the GF has her say too
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trayhop123
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fuckkkkk where do i start ,,,,,,,
well obviously first (wait for the shock) i have to congratulate petera, the single most intelligent post to ever, ever, ever come from you, shocked, and ,,,,,,,, (with a slight growl/moan) but well done.
now onto the subject in hand, once knew a lad, no names ,,,,,, ok rob lol,,,, who i will give you a few examples, once while i was out slotting with him, i had just bought bust a move 2 on ps1, just gone platinum, so £20, anyway rob was saying how fantastic it was having played it in the arcade and that he wished he had it on his ps, when i said why dont you buy a copy then,? there only £20, he said he couldn't afford it, as wait for it ............................he only had £600 on him,,,,,,,,,, wtf? ,,,, his gambling mentality wouldn't let him spend 20 out of 600 incase he had a bad run later on in the bookies and that last 20 could of pulled him out the shit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, fucking mental.
sufice to say he sold his ps a few days later for gambling funds anyhow
example 2 whenever you were out playing with him and it was dinner time, i would always have dinner, be it a spoons or anywhere, never not, but he would always say he would wait till he got home ,,,,,,, wtf? from 9am to 11.30pm without food ,,,,, and even with a wedge of money on him,
and as ive mentioned in another thread, if the first machine of the day fucked him for £30, he wouldn't soldier on and battle on for the rest of the day like you n me ,,,, oooohhhh nooooo,,,, he would have to do the remainder of his dough on a make or break bet in the bookies ,,,, more often than not resulting in him walking home at 10am ,,,,, not to be seen for 2weeks.
now its alright for me to be up my own arse, and sound big headed ,,,,,,, and i do feel sorry for those with this mindset ,,, but to me ive only ever looked at what we do as a full time job ,nothing more ,,,,,,,, my float is my tools etc,
if i was given a million pounds tomoz, i could and would walk away from this job in a heartbeat, wouldn't give bandits a second thought,
never ever ever entertained betting on a horse, dog, football, not once in my life.
dont ever ever drink or smoke, just dont have an addictive personality i guess,
in fact meet me away from slotting and im a square superhero, videogame, movie, nerd
this is all easy for me to say though,,,,,,,,,, i do however feel sorry for those with this sad affliction, but what can you honestly do for people ,,,,,,,
my final thought goes out to my friend and a lot of yours, mark pyne, who i will always regret not spending more days out with slotting and keeping him out the hellhole that is the casino ,,,,,,,,,, glad he's doing ok now
well obviously first (wait for the shock) i have to congratulate petera, the single most intelligent post to ever, ever, ever come from you, shocked, and ,,,,,,,, (with a slight growl/moan) but well done.
now onto the subject in hand, once knew a lad, no names ,,,,,, ok rob lol,,,, who i will give you a few examples, once while i was out slotting with him, i had just bought bust a move 2 on ps1, just gone platinum, so £20, anyway rob was saying how fantastic it was having played it in the arcade and that he wished he had it on his ps, when i said why dont you buy a copy then,? there only £20, he said he couldn't afford it, as wait for it ............................he only had £600 on him,,,,,,,,,, wtf? ,,,, his gambling mentality wouldn't let him spend 20 out of 600 incase he had a bad run later on in the bookies and that last 20 could of pulled him out the shit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, fucking mental.
sufice to say he sold his ps a few days later for gambling funds anyhow
example 2 whenever you were out playing with him and it was dinner time, i would always have dinner, be it a spoons or anywhere, never not, but he would always say he would wait till he got home ,,,,,,, wtf? from 9am to 11.30pm without food ,,,,, and even with a wedge of money on him,
and as ive mentioned in another thread, if the first machine of the day fucked him for £30, he wouldn't soldier on and battle on for the rest of the day like you n me ,,,, oooohhhh nooooo,,,, he would have to do the remainder of his dough on a make or break bet in the bookies ,,,, more often than not resulting in him walking home at 10am ,,,,, not to be seen for 2weeks.
now its alright for me to be up my own arse, and sound big headed ,,,,,,, and i do feel sorry for those with this mindset ,,, but to me ive only ever looked at what we do as a full time job ,nothing more ,,,,,,,, my float is my tools etc,
if i was given a million pounds tomoz, i could and would walk away from this job in a heartbeat, wouldn't give bandits a second thought,
never ever ever entertained betting on a horse, dog, football, not once in my life.
dont ever ever drink or smoke, just dont have an addictive personality i guess,
in fact meet me away from slotting and im a square superhero, videogame, movie, nerd
this is all easy for me to say though,,,,,,,,,, i do however feel sorry for those with this sad affliction, but what can you honestly do for people ,,,,,,,
my final thought goes out to my friend and a lot of yours, mark pyne, who i will always regret not spending more days out with slotting and keeping him out the hellhole that is the casino ,,,,,,,,,, glad he's doing ok now
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There is really good help available in the form of Gamblers anonymous
if anyone thinks they are out of control go to at least one meeting and just listen to people telling their stories .......... I promise it will scare you shitless.
Then when you are ready stand up and admit you have a problem and you will from that moment get help that you need.
Its not easy , because there is no easy fix
Most people can never ever gamble again
I am "lucky" in the sense I came through it and can gamble and be in control but that is a rarity and I am fully aware that its dangerous and I am no superhero and I could fall back at any time.
I am posting a series of questions taken fron the Gam anon website
Are You A Compulsive Gambler ?
Most compulsive gamblers will answer YES to at least SEVEN
of these questions:
1. Do you lose time from work due to gambling?
2. Is gambling making your home life unhappy?
3. Is gambling affecting your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Do you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or to otherwise solve financial difficulties?
6. Does gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing, do you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses.
8. After a win do you have a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Do you often gamble until your last pound is gone?
10. Do you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
12. Are you reluctant to use gambling money for normal expenditures?
13. Does gambling make you careless of the welfare of your family?
14. Do you gamble longer than you planned?
15. Do you ever gamble to escape worry or trouble?
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
17. Does gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
18. Do arguments, disappointments, or frustrations create an urge within you to gamble?
19. Do you have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours gambling?
20. Have you ever considered self-destruction as a result of your gambling?
I am not trying to turn this into a crusade and if people want me to shut up about it I will........... I just dont want to see any of you guys , some who are quite young ruin their lives the way I did.
if anyone thinks they are out of control go to at least one meeting and just listen to people telling their stories .......... I promise it will scare you shitless.
Then when you are ready stand up and admit you have a problem and you will from that moment get help that you need.
Its not easy , because there is no easy fix
Most people can never ever gamble again
I am "lucky" in the sense I came through it and can gamble and be in control but that is a rarity and I am fully aware that its dangerous and I am no superhero and I could fall back at any time.
I am posting a series of questions taken fron the Gam anon website
Are You A Compulsive Gambler ?
Most compulsive gamblers will answer YES to at least SEVEN
of these questions:
1. Do you lose time from work due to gambling?
2. Is gambling making your home life unhappy?
3. Is gambling affecting your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Do you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or to otherwise solve financial difficulties?
6. Does gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing, do you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses.
8. After a win do you have a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Do you often gamble until your last pound is gone?
10. Do you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
12. Are you reluctant to use gambling money for normal expenditures?
13. Does gambling make you careless of the welfare of your family?
14. Do you gamble longer than you planned?
15. Do you ever gamble to escape worry or trouble?
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
17. Does gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
18. Do arguments, disappointments, or frustrations create an urge within you to gamble?
19. Do you have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours gambling?
20. Have you ever considered self-destruction as a result of your gambling?
I am not trying to turn this into a crusade and if people want me to shut up about it I will........... I just dont want to see any of you guys , some who are quite young ruin their lives the way I did.
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Mr McStreak
Petera, you have made some excellent points in your recent posts, and although some people may consider them a bit preachy, with my background I know exactly where you are coming from.
I look back on the days I used to be in a casino most nights and given all the money i've wasted I could be excused perhaps for feeling bitter. After all I'd certainly be set up for LIFE without succumbing to this pitfall.
But i'm not bitter. I can't really describe why, but I guess that I MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION to gamble in the casinos, so i've got myself to blame. I do regret being drawn in, but Que sera sera, its happened, and I can't dwell on the past. I do still go to the casino occasionally, but I make a proper event out of it , if you like. Me and some friends will go down, play the poker tourney, have a nice meal, a few drinks, and play a little blackjack or whatever. Obviously drinking and gambling plays nicely into the casinos hands, but I don't mind, its a night out in good company, if I spend £100-200 so be it.
I often see kids of 18 or 19 winning thousands, and think thats what I was like 10 or so years back, and I can see how some of them are destined for a mighty fall. I am also still prone to playing roulette in bookmakers. I've always been a gambler, and i'm brutally honest when I say I always will be. the difference is that 10 years back, when I was relentless about making money on machines, and enjoyed it, it seemed like a hobby. Bad attitude. As a result i'd blow money every week in the casino, and simply set about earning plenty more. The older amongst us will concur that the JPM days were the best days perhaps. Nowadays I don't consider machines as a hobby. I do it because it beats working and paying tax, but it still bores the fuck out of me. The money means alot more.
Despite this, I find myself no less susceptible to gambling. For example if I have a day off, which is often these days as I don't have enough games to work everyday, I feel the need to bet on football, or play roulette, so that I have 'earned' something,as opposed to fuck all. That said i'm staying in today......
I know deep down that I will always be a small step away from fucking things up, losing control if you like. Petera, if you honestly believe you are able to frequent casinos etc, and stay in control despite going through a rehabilitation process regarding gambling, then fair play to you.
For me gambling is in my blood, and probably always will be, and while I can exercise commendable levels of self control on some occasions, on others I can't, and I can't see it ever being different.
So, you are right I probably do need help........
I look back on the days I used to be in a casino most nights and given all the money i've wasted I could be excused perhaps for feeling bitter. After all I'd certainly be set up for LIFE without succumbing to this pitfall.
But i'm not bitter. I can't really describe why, but I guess that I MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION to gamble in the casinos, so i've got myself to blame. I do regret being drawn in, but Que sera sera, its happened, and I can't dwell on the past. I do still go to the casino occasionally, but I make a proper event out of it , if you like. Me and some friends will go down, play the poker tourney, have a nice meal, a few drinks, and play a little blackjack or whatever. Obviously drinking and gambling plays nicely into the casinos hands, but I don't mind, its a night out in good company, if I spend £100-200 so be it.
I often see kids of 18 or 19 winning thousands, and think thats what I was like 10 or so years back, and I can see how some of them are destined for a mighty fall. I am also still prone to playing roulette in bookmakers. I've always been a gambler, and i'm brutally honest when I say I always will be. the difference is that 10 years back, when I was relentless about making money on machines, and enjoyed it, it seemed like a hobby. Bad attitude. As a result i'd blow money every week in the casino, and simply set about earning plenty more. The older amongst us will concur that the JPM days were the best days perhaps. Nowadays I don't consider machines as a hobby. I do it because it beats working and paying tax, but it still bores the fuck out of me. The money means alot more.
Despite this, I find myself no less susceptible to gambling. For example if I have a day off, which is often these days as I don't have enough games to work everyday, I feel the need to bet on football, or play roulette, so that I have 'earned' something,as opposed to fuck all. That said i'm staying in today......
I know deep down that I will always be a small step away from fucking things up, losing control if you like. Petera, if you honestly believe you are able to frequent casinos etc, and stay in control despite going through a rehabilitation process regarding gambling, then fair play to you.
For me gambling is in my blood, and probably always will be, and while I can exercise commendable levels of self control on some occasions, on others I can't, and I can't see it ever being different.
So, you are right I probably do need help........
It has taken many years to be strong like I am now , but I have incredible willpower (stopped smoking overnight 40-0 and never looked back)
I take my wife to the casino now and we have a nice evening including a meal.
I'll still even play machines in the odd arcade but they dont do it for me like they used to ie..... I can take em or leave em.
As Ive said I am no superhero (I'll leave that to trayhop) and I could fail at any time and that in its self is a gamble but its my way of dealing with it .
I will also say finally that without the help I received from Gamblers anonymous I am convinced I would not be here today.
I take my wife to the casino now and we have a nice evening including a meal.
I'll still even play machines in the odd arcade but they dont do it for me like they used to ie..... I can take em or leave em.
As Ive said I am no superhero (I'll leave that to trayhop) and I could fail at any time and that in its self is a gamble but its my way of dealing with it .
I will also say finally that without the help I received from Gamblers anonymous I am convinced I would not be here today.