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				Are we all doomed?
				Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:04 pm
				by bigpokercouk
				ok so I keep rumours about machines leaving pubs by the end of the year, complete rumour or some fact in there?
another version was no JP machines other than quiz allowed in places that serve food.
Anyone know the full truth?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:19 pm
				by RUDE
				I too have heard the rumours and September seems to be the date that's getting banded about.
I don't believe it will be an overnight change but think fruit machines as we know them will probably be phased out in the next couple of years.
I would also be interested if anyone has any facts.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:50 am
				by HorseRacingKing
				Bet you wished you had got jobs now.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:20 am
				by ob
				where are these rumours coming from prey tell?!?! wouldn't that be the end for fruit machine manufacturers? Unless machines are only allowed in arcades I suppose, which would mean only lotechs really....
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:00 am
				by harry 3
				There's a rumour going round that pubs are going to phase out beer as well: and people talking to each other. If they bring in some books and have a coffee shop they can start calling themselves Waterstones.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:09 am
				by RUDE
				"J D Waterstones", I can see it now!!
To "HorseRacingKing" (or whatever you've chosen to call yourself this week), I DO have a good job, I DON'T rely on machines for an income but enjoy playing them for profit.  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:59 am
				by GaryChandler
				Wilson i hear your pretty skint these days eh?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:29 am
				by jeffvickers
				HorseRacingKing wrote:Bet you wished you had got jobs now.
I trust a few of us on here will have tens of thousands in savings, some I bet may even have enough money for a house if they have saved well over the years in the game.
I'm sure, if and when the game is up, there will be some investment opportunities & business start-ups.
And the rest of you,  Mr Polska and Mr Lithuania have your Min. Wage work!
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:38 am
				by GaryChandler
				If all this does happen(i personally think its bollox) im sitting in butlins all day  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:44 am
				by toothless11
				There is always arcades!Lol. But lets be fair, machines are still on test and getting released now!! I think its bollocks
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:59 pm
				by Flying Spaghetti Monster
				There's an interesting article to do with the subject of this thread in the Publican from 17th March (you can find it on the web, just google the publican)
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:31 pm
				by aaamusements.co.uk
				AWP's are definitely being phased out in non licensed premises - I think the deadline is September 2009?
The can be replaced by non licensed SWP/ quiz machines.
Fruities being banned from pubs is undoubtedly nonsense!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:35 pm
				by gambogaz1
				Some depressing reading there.
Games Media
“We have gone digital in about 10 per cent of the estate, in a cross-section of pubs, and we are getting more money in the cashbox in all of them,” she explains"
Viva Baby Vegas
"After many months of testing and talking to pubcos he has finally struck a deal with Sceptre Leisure, the country’s third largest operator with 16,000 machines, that will see his digital AWPs installed in pubs at a slow but steady rate, with groups including Admiral Taverns and brewers such as Thwaites and Joseph Holt involved."
“How long that evolution will take depends on whether we can get jackpots higher. It’s still only £35 in pubs compared to fixed-odds terminals which have a £500 jackpot. Licensees are losing players to betting offices and arcades and that’s slowed development.
Inspired Gaming
“I have no doubt that digital will change the whole face of the industry, but it’s important we get the right machines in the right places. “There’s a danger in thinking one glove fits all. It has to be site-specific.”
The flexible content of a digital AWP means content can not only be varied from pub to pub but on one site it can change through the week or through the day.
Marsh envisages, for instance, that a machine might have games for the core player between 9pm and 11pm but try to attract casual players with different content during the day. “We can even elongate game speed and give new players more value,” he explains.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:38 pm
				by jeffvickers
				I hope they get tooled for everything.  Greedy corparate twats
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:49 pm
				by Drpepper
				For utter fucks sake, when i finally get to uni there'll be no machines to play.
Probably for the best really, newcastle's probably well covered(even though i've never seen anyone from that end of the woods on here).