I was reading the Misc Manu's forum and stumbled across a member using the following as a 'tag line' (or whatever they're called......where's Dunhamzzz when you need him!)
"Money won is twice as sweet as money earned"
Now, I can't help but disagree with this particular gentlemans findings. My experience tells me that there is great satisfaction in a good honest pay-cheque (no pun) but find money won a little hollow.
I thought I'd see what others thought, partly to further my knowledge of the players pshycological profile but mainly because I was bored
Another day, another 42p
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Matt Vinyl
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I agree with you there - if I have £100 in my pocket that I have taken out of the bank from my pay cheque, I'm careful with it, and can make it last quite a while. On the other hand, if I have £100 in my pocket that is profit from a machine, I find I blow it on stuff, and don't treat it as 'proper money'.
"And do you ever contradict yourself, Minister?" "Well, yes and no..."
I'll agree also. If I'm £100 up on the day then lose it all on the last machine I play I'll be a bit pi$$ed off, but it wasn't my money to start off with therefore nothing ventured nothing gained.
On the other hand, if I withdraw £100 of my own 'earned' cash and lose it I'm more than annoyed, angry in fact.
Different people, different morals and ethics I guess.
On the other hand, if I withdraw £100 of my own 'earned' cash and lose it I'm more than annoyed, angry in fact.
Different people, different morals and ethics I guess.
Sorry ma71lda, that is horrendous logic usually spouted by grannies at Northern bingo halls along the lines of "hey laaad, aarr'm playin' with their mooney nowww" because they had a win previously.ma71lda wrote:I'll agree also. If I'm £100 up on the day then lose it all on the last machine I play I'll be a bit pi$$ed off, but it wasn't my money to start off with therefore nothing ventured nothing gained.
That money won is YOUR cash as soon as you've won it. Each pound you won will buy you exactly the same amount of petrol (3&1/2 drips) or cigarettes (2) or bus fare etc. as what a pound you earned in salary will buy you.
Just because it is money not earmarked for rent/food/mortgage or whatever simply because you 'won' it doesn't make it worth less!!
Another thing, what about keeping a note of last time you lost money that came from your SALARY and offsetting any 'wins' against that to reinstate the TRUE value of that 'won' money??
I genuinely beg to differ.
If I start the day with £200 in my pocket and end the day with £200, its not the end of the world. I've had a day out for free - free beer, free food and free travel. I work as does my girlfriend, all of our household bills are covered by our wages, with money left over. Anything made on Fruities is pure and simply EXTRA pleasure money which is normally spent on video games, dvds, my daughter or I'll save it up and buy something bigger.
I don't have to play machines to survive therefore I do have the philosophy of THE WINNINGS WEREN'T MY OWN TO BEGIN WITH, SO WHY BEAT MYSELF UP IF I LOSE THEM, don't get me wrong I don't purposefully lose on the final machine I play!!
Maybe I should have a tagline - Share the Wealth.
If I start the day with £200 in my pocket and end the day with £200, its not the end of the world. I've had a day out for free - free beer, free food and free travel. I work as does my girlfriend, all of our household bills are covered by our wages, with money left over. Anything made on Fruities is pure and simply EXTRA pleasure money which is normally spent on video games, dvds, my daughter or I'll save it up and buy something bigger.
I don't have to play machines to survive therefore I do have the philosophy of THE WINNINGS WEREN'T MY OWN TO BEGIN WITH, SO WHY BEAT MYSELF UP IF I LOSE THEM, don't get me wrong I don't purposefully lose on the final machine I play!!
Maybe I should have a tagline - Share the Wealth.
I'm a bit of both. I don't get as annoyed losing money won....but the fact is its much harder to win it than lose it! Playing with that mentality is just giving yourself irrational reason to get reckless and lose it all.
My main goal is to just come back with more than i start with - be it £1 or £100. Anything but a loss is good, and although you might feel aggrieved some days when you win small, over the course of time your average win is decent.
My main goal is to just come back with more than i start with - be it £1 or £100. Anything but a loss is good, and although you might feel aggrieved some days when you win small, over the course of time your average win is decent.
"Sixty percent of the time, it works, every time!"
If i had a good session that involved winning £105 off £5, then spent £150 getting a £70 top then daed, i'd still be £20 up, and happy.
But if i'd played today and won £100, then played tomorrow and lost £80. The psychology of it is different if you ask me, how many people could be like "meh, i did win £100 yesterday"
It's just how you view playing. To me each session is independent of another, and to others each machine is independent of another.
But if i'd played today and won £100, then played tomorrow and lost £80. The psychology of it is different if you ask me, how many people could be like "meh, i did win £100 yesterday"
It's just how you view playing. To me each session is independent of another, and to others each machine is independent of another.
I think the exact quote is "A dollar won is twice as sweet as a dollar earned", attributed to Paul Newman.
I have to agree with this on the whole. Whereas ChangingStakeCancelsHold reckons it feels 'hollow', I have to say that I feel the same way about my salary - yes, it's nice to feel you earned it but I did spend 35 hrs a week in an office doing someone else's bidding, so it's the least I should get.
Winning money feels twice as good because it doesn't involve 'work'. Risk, yes, but no real work. You can't tell me that when you walk away £100 up you're thinking "I'd feel a lot happier if I'd just worked a couple of extra shifts instead"?
That said, if I had the choice, I'd rather become a millionaire through work than winning the Lotto for various reasons that I won't go into. It's strange how money can sway rational though, eh?
I have to agree with this on the whole. Whereas ChangingStakeCancelsHold reckons it feels 'hollow', I have to say that I feel the same way about my salary - yes, it's nice to feel you earned it but I did spend 35 hrs a week in an office doing someone else's bidding, so it's the least I should get.
Winning money feels twice as good because it doesn't involve 'work'. Risk, yes, but no real work. You can't tell me that when you walk away £100 up you're thinking "I'd feel a lot happier if I'd just worked a couple of extra shifts instead"?
That said, if I had the choice, I'd rather become a millionaire through work than winning the Lotto for various reasons that I won't go into. It's strange how money can sway rational though, eh?
Interesting stuff. I can echo a few sentiments and add some of my own hopefully.
If I lose £200 on fruit machines and win £300 on on line poker in a single day/session, then I'm £100 up Sherlock. However it ain't that easy innit?
Next time I play machines I'll feel like I'm behind schedule and I'm playing catch up. This can lead to taking on irrational gambles and a crash and burn catch 22 situation develop. Now I tell myself there is nothing wrong with grinding. Yes it would be sweet to win a rapid fire £500, but it very very very rarely happens. All the times when I went on tilt and tried to win it back by pure 'luck' the only good time was after blowing a 2'er on various s16s, a Slotto came good for £40ish and spat out the jackpot leaving me up a small amount for the day. It felt wierd. I had resigned myself to losing and had been granted a gimmie by lady luck. MOST OF THE TIME it was a case of digging a deeper hole. £120 down is a lot better than £350 down.
Chasing losses is a bad trait, anyway I've deviated.
I look at it on a day to day basis. Each day is a session. Different activities come from different pots. Oooh, it's like a fruit machine this. Bad sentence construction. There are pots for AWP/on line poker/FOBT/Casino/Sports betting/SWP. I also keep pots for seperate locations. It's a gambler's psyche thing. It also helps to identify trends. Location pots are as follows. Pubs/Shipleys/Showboat/Other arcade/Station/Tenpin/Hollywood/Roadchef/Welcome Break/Other services/Travelling fair/??mystery locations??
I keep records for on line poker and AWP sessions and have recorded various notes on my sparse experience with FOBT/casino/sports betting.
I know to reasonable precision what I have won, or lost in detail within any given time period within the last four years when I started keeping notes in a diary. Before that I was in the same camp as a few on here. Go for beers, kebab, day up, finish in profit=result. End of.
The records will also be useful for tax purposes. Poker is fine as deposits, ahem, or withdrawals are marked with the poker room name on my account statement.
Speed up.
Ok. Winning £200 in the morning on fruit machines and losing £180 in the afternoon is a winning session, but tinged with sadness and an investigation would be brought into force by a statuatory committee of fellows who reside in my head and appropriate (verb) through various operational channels, standard operational procedures that shall be activated and simultaneously trialled throughout the next session. These standard operating procedures are subject to a subjective committee of appointed neurologically mythical fellows who sit upon the board of AWP operations based within my subbasal horn of ganglia within my left cerebellum who control and master all directional throughput of analytical data regarding the statistical interpretation of financial accruement obtained through the procedural incorporation of AWP related skill based activity during the day.
What more can I say?
If I lose £200 on fruit machines and win £300 on on line poker in a single day/session, then I'm £100 up Sherlock. However it ain't that easy innit?
Next time I play machines I'll feel like I'm behind schedule and I'm playing catch up. This can lead to taking on irrational gambles and a crash and burn catch 22 situation develop. Now I tell myself there is nothing wrong with grinding. Yes it would be sweet to win a rapid fire £500, but it very very very rarely happens. All the times when I went on tilt and tried to win it back by pure 'luck' the only good time was after blowing a 2'er on various s16s, a Slotto came good for £40ish and spat out the jackpot leaving me up a small amount for the day. It felt wierd. I had resigned myself to losing and had been granted a gimmie by lady luck. MOST OF THE TIME it was a case of digging a deeper hole. £120 down is a lot better than £350 down.
Chasing losses is a bad trait, anyway I've deviated.
I look at it on a day to day basis. Each day is a session. Different activities come from different pots. Oooh, it's like a fruit machine this. Bad sentence construction. There are pots for AWP/on line poker/FOBT/Casino/Sports betting/SWP. I also keep pots for seperate locations. It's a gambler's psyche thing. It also helps to identify trends. Location pots are as follows. Pubs/Shipleys/Showboat/Other arcade/Station/Tenpin/Hollywood/Roadchef/Welcome Break/Other services/Travelling fair/??mystery locations??
I keep records for on line poker and AWP sessions and have recorded various notes on my sparse experience with FOBT/casino/sports betting.
I know to reasonable precision what I have won, or lost in detail within any given time period within the last four years when I started keeping notes in a diary. Before that I was in the same camp as a few on here. Go for beers, kebab, day up, finish in profit=result. End of.
The records will also be useful for tax purposes. Poker is fine as deposits, ahem, or withdrawals are marked with the poker room name on my account statement.
Speed up.
Ok. Winning £200 in the morning on fruit machines and losing £180 in the afternoon is a winning session, but tinged with sadness and an investigation would be brought into force by a statuatory committee of fellows who reside in my head and appropriate (verb) through various operational channels, standard operational procedures that shall be activated and simultaneously trialled throughout the next session. These standard operating procedures are subject to a subjective committee of appointed neurologically mythical fellows who sit upon the board of AWP operations based within my subbasal horn of ganglia within my left cerebellum who control and master all directional throughput of analytical data regarding the statistical interpretation of financial accruement obtained through the procedural incorporation of AWP related skill based activity during the day.
What more can I say?
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CARDSHARK007
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money lost/won
i won £150 the other day there n woke up with £75 in the morning ffs! imust have battered sum pints n that fukk me lol.. also i think i went out with like £80 in the 1st place ffs lol!
ah well enjoyed myself anyway fukk it, altho i dun over a 1ner!!
a day 2 4 get financially me thinks!! do'h
ah well enjoyed myself anyway fukk it, altho i dun over a 1ner!!
a day 2 4 get financially me thinks!! do'h
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