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Exaggeration?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:39 pm
by cashino
Blog I found googling, sounds familiar, but I suspect these amounts would earn a decent stretch in gaol. I am glad I don't own machines near this character.
http://coingrabber.blogspot.com/

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:55 pm
by JG
Haha. Yes. Watts all the fuss about? It's just a few thousand poundypoos for little time expediture. At least if I did go to prison, my whites would be whiter than white because I would have used a top brand washing powder such as Surf or Ariel. A washing powder I could have afforded with my winnings. Dazzling.

M6 near Rugby? You mean Corley.
Third reel rip for Mega Streak on Wiyb? What are you on about me old china? Bad one. That said.....read on McDuff

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:56 pm
by bowie
Biggest load of bollocks, read like an advert.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:08 pm
by JG
Yeah - an advert for Daz. Watts this thread about again?

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:41 am
by Dunhamzzz
he really goes for his marketing on this. good call tbh. Wonder how much he actually makes?

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:53 am
by cashino
Ah, I suspected as much, you old hands confirmed it. I hope he is keeping the OFCOM rules applied this time, or I can see our department having some more dealings with him!
(reference my introductory post a while back)

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:54 am
by cashino
Ah, I suspected as much, you old hands confirmed it. I hope he is keeping the OFCOM rules applied this time, or I can see our department having some more dealings with him!
He's like herpes, when you think you may have finally got rid of him, comes back when you're not expecting it.
(reference my introductory post a while back)

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:35 am
by jeffvickers
CE :D

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:01 pm
by megastreaker
I stupidly fell victim to him about 2 years ago. I bought his £100 jammer.

i tried it on an old section 16 and the first £5 it threw in a £160 combo.

Then it was all down hill from there on.

he never gave me a refund and screwed me over.

is he making £000s from people? Surely he could be arrested for what he is doing? how can he still be conning people for money.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:37 pm
by cashino
megastreaker wrote:I stupidly fell victim to him about 2 years ago. I bought his £100 jammer.

i tried it on an old section 16 and the first £5 it threw in a £160 combo.

Then it was all down hill from there on.

he never gave me a refund and screwed me over.

is he making £000s from people? Surely he could be arrested for what he is doing? how can he still be conning people for money.
You shouldn't tell me that, remember I am a TS investigator! If you won 160 with it keep it to yourself! Like I said in my original detailed post ('machineguard uk' thread) as long as he doesn't break OFCOM rules on his gadgets he isn't doing anything illegal as far a we are concerned. As for advertising standards, the premise there is to prove 'totally misleading or completely false claims, made by vendors with provable intent to create business'. As I said before, the very fact an industry insider, Machineguard UK in this case, has officially intimated that they are successfully being used by fraudsters gives him an almost watertight defence against false advertising. Ironically his enemy is his best defence witness.
The logical follow on thus, is to ask, that if this is the case, surely criminal proceedings can be cited against the vendor.
The police were involved, and decided there was no criminal case to answer, after a long investigation, as the items are not specifically illegal to make or sell, and as I said before the only wrongdoing that could be definitely cited and acted upon was the OFCOM rules, and as such his breach of those was considered trivial and thus warranted a caution which he delightedly accepted. Of course.

In the areas of commerce, there are many 'blurry' areas which worry many people. A similar case would be selling imitation firearms over the web. Perfectly legal to make and sell these replicas, however it makes many concerned, in my opinion quite rightly.
It all comes back to 'buyer responsibility' - any adult not mentally confined or criminally confined is considered in law of free will to buy anything legal they choose, and the onus is on them to behave and use it responsibly and within the law.
In the case of a man selling replica firearms, he could scream in his advertising for example "replica Uzi, same weight and feel as of the original item, with removable magazine and fake bullets, so good even a soldier or policeman wouldn't tell the difference until they picked it up etc..."
Perfectly legal, but not popular. If somebody buys this item and robs the local bookies with it, what action can be taken against the seller? Absolutely none. The seller's defence is that the buyer behaved irresponsibly, contrary to his advice.
Our mutual friend states that his gadgets are for use on the buyers' own equipment or equipment the buyer has permission to use' and also that 'it is a criminal offence to do otherwise' or words to that effect as I recall.
This covers his ass basically, against any incitement to offend.

People who sell items in these 'blurry' areas are best ignored, whether tools, imitiation guns, huge-bladed knives or whatever other gems exist.
If I had a teenager child for example, and he chose to buy a machine device as opposed to a ruddy great knife or imitation firearm, in this unfortunate day and age I'd probably be relieved.

You buy at your peril.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:41 pm
by megastreaker
I didn't win 160 that was just luck. The things don't work.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:09 pm
by Dunhamzzz
megastreaker wrote:I didn't win 160 that was just luck. The things don't work.
Ah but how do you know that hmmmm ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:19 pm
by megastreaker
Because they tell us their devices work every time. I couldn't get a penny out of a machine after this. I tried and tried and after bout £500 spent I never won a penny.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:48 pm
by cashino
megastreaker wrote:Because they tell us their devices work every time. I couldn't get a penny out of a machine after this. I tried and tried and after bout £500 spent I never won a penny.
If you were totally convinced that the item doesn't work, why mention the 160 at all? Surely it would be irrelevant!
Perhaps it did work, but you couldn't repeat what you did right again.
The thing is, you shouldn't try to rob other peoples coins with it anyway!

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:05 pm
by jeffvickers
Cashino, you have to understand that addicts/munters that have bought these have probably lost tens of thousands on the fruities over the years, they have proably been refused their money when the machine has been faulty one way or another, they have probably missed out on the chance of a jackpot because a microswitch does'nt work. They do their wage in a machine in 2 hours when the machine claims to pay out at 78%. They get a little excited after playing a machine because its full (refill after £105 just paid).
You get the drift. They are sick of cheating machines, so they want revenge.