megastreaker wrote:I stupidly fell victim to him about 2 years ago. I bought his £100 jammer.
i tried it on an old section 16 and the first £5 it threw in a £160 combo.
Then it was all down hill from there on.
he never gave me a refund and screwed me over.
is he making £000s from people? Surely he could be arrested for what he is doing? how can he still be conning people for money.
You shouldn't tell me that, remember I am a TS investigator! If you won 160 with it keep it to yourself! Like I said in my original detailed post ('machineguard uk' thread) as long as he doesn't break OFCOM rules on his gadgets he isn't doing anything illegal as far a we are concerned. As for advertising standards, the premise there is to prove 'totally misleading or completely false claims, made by vendors with provable intent to create business'. As I said before, the very fact an industry insider, Machineguard UK in this case, has officially intimated that they are successfully being used by fraudsters gives him an almost watertight defence against false advertising. Ironically his enemy is his best defence witness.
The logical follow on thus, is to ask, that if this is the case, surely criminal proceedings can be cited against the vendor.
The police were involved, and decided there was no criminal case to answer, after a long investigation, as the items are not specifically illegal to make or sell, and as I said before the only wrongdoing that could be definitely cited and acted upon was the OFCOM rules, and as such his breach of those was considered trivial and thus warranted a caution which he delightedly accepted. Of course.
In the areas of commerce, there are many 'blurry' areas which worry many people. A similar case would be selling imitation firearms over the web. Perfectly legal to make and sell these replicas, however it makes many concerned, in my opinion quite rightly.
It all comes back to 'buyer responsibility' - any adult not mentally confined or criminally confined is considered in law of free will to buy anything legal they choose, and the onus is on them to behave and use it responsibly and within the law.
In the case of a man selling replica firearms, he could scream in his advertising for example "replica Uzi, same weight and feel as of the original item, with removable magazine and fake bullets, so good even a soldier or policeman wouldn't tell the difference until they picked it up etc..."
Perfectly legal, but not popular. If somebody buys this item and robs the local bookies with it, what action can be taken against the seller? Absolutely none. The seller's defence is that the buyer behaved irresponsibly, contrary to his advice.
Our mutual friend states that his gadgets are for use on the buyers' own equipment or equipment the buyer has permission to use' and also that 'it is a criminal offence to do otherwise' or words to that effect as I recall.
This covers his ass basically, against any incitement to offend.
People who sell items in these 'blurry' areas are best ignored, whether tools, imitiation guns, huge-bladed knives or whatever other gems exist.
If I had a teenager child for example, and he chose to buy a machine device as opposed to a ruddy great knife or imitation firearm, in this unfortunate day and age I'd probably be relieved.
You buy at your peril.