Keybets

cockney kid · Post by **cockney kid** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:32 pm

Ne 1 got ne locations for me over 320 bar if so ill come do em n sort u out

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:35 pm

quizard · Post by **quizard** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:18 pm

Ffs lol

Real Pro gamer · Post by **Real Pro gamer** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:53 pm

Why you not playing them at £70 and upwards?

eastangliapro · Post by **eastangliapro** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:15 am

how about if you want to find them get of your arse and look for god sake.......

Roll_With_It_Russ · Post by **Roll_With_It_Russ** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:05 am

I don't get how the key bet pots build up on any units with low pots, the only ones that get paid are the high ones where someone has chased and the reserve is high, other than that whats the attraction of playing?

eastangliapro · Post by **eastangliapro** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:09 am

ask trayhop hes the keybet merchant lol

quizard · Post by **quizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:47 am

Roll_With_It_Russ wrote:I don't get how the key bet pots build up on any units with low pots, the only ones that get paid are the high ones where someone has chased and the reserve is high, other than that whats the attraction of playing?

Keybets can only build a large pot if people play them way above the minimum stake. If the machine was only ever played at the £5 minimum with the keybet covered it would have to survive 3200 spins for the pot to increase by £200. The probabilty of it surviving that number of spins without being won is only something like 1 in 500 machines. You would be surprised what some people do with them though. I once watched a bloke play one at £100 a spin. He lost about £1k in about 20mins and put the pot up by about £30+.

Ladbrokes and Corals have both been trialing lower minimum stake versions of the game. Obviously these are cheaper to play but less likely to reach a subsantial pot.

Roll_With_It_Russ · Post by **Roll_With_It_Russ** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:33 am

Why the fuck are they not playing just the normal roulette game then?

Marcossvon · Post by **Marcossvon** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:44 am

Because assuming they are not rigged there is a mathematical tipping point where the odds can be in your favour. However, the vast percentage of players do not possess the discipline to play for this value.

kong · Post by **kong** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:08 pm

456/1 makes for a fine margin too! Although that figure doesn't take into account the occasional x20 it gives you, or the fiver you lose on zero.

BFK · Post by **BFK** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:28 pm

quizard wrote:Keybets can only build a large pot if people play them way above the minimum stake. If the machine was only ever played at the £5 minimum with the keybet covered it would have to survive 3200 spins for the pot to increase by £200. The probabilty of it surviving that number of spins without being won is only something like 1 in 500 machines. You would be surprised what some people do with them though. I once watched a bloke play one at £100 a spin. He lost about £1k in about 20mins and put the pot up by about £30+.

Ladbrokes and Corals have both been trialing lower minimum stake versions of the game. Obviously these are cheaper to play but less likely to reach a subsantial pot.

Guarantee you I could make it survive that amount of spins!!!

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:08 pm

lol at bfk ,,,,,,,,, im sure you could m8 ,,, with your luck

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:33 pm

Some good points made here.

Keybets and suchlike are designed to promote interest in roulette amongst people who previously had never played the game. I know several people whose first visit to a highstreet bookmakers was to play a lucky 8. Those same people are now racing around looking for keybets to sit out, and if they don't find one they'll just spin off their float on the wheel anyway.

quizard · Post by **quizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:48 pm

Roll_With_It_Russ wrote:Why the fuck are they not playing just the normal roulette game then?

Well why the fuck are they playing roulette at all when the loss is so transparent? You can't reason with these people (I have tried

). They are just not satisfied until they have emptied their pockets.