Â£100 jackpots

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:33 pm

Thoughts? Apart from more fire is it one last throw of the dice for the industry

johncluedo · Post by **johncluedo** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:37 pm

When Is This Set To Happen?

BFK · Post by **BFK** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:09 pm

Wasn't there a thread about this before?

As far as I'm aware it's all just talk. Nothing's been finalised has it?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:17 pm

April I believe

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:18 pm

April 1st ?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:27 pm

Serious lugs that what I heard

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:32 pm

only playing lol.

anyone heard any more on the cat d increase to 10 quidders?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:47 pm

When people say 'the industry is on its arse' what do they mean? Are the machine companies not making a profit? Or are you getting at something else? Serious question?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:51 pm

Around me fruits are constantly vacant. They can go hours without punters. I feel it's mostly players money you win now. Arcs always empty. £100 surely will kill pub fruits as we know em off unless there just reg lasses. Fuck knows

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:54 pm

I certainly agree about the arcade comment, they are pretty dead now compared to say 10 years ago.

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 pm

Nothing on gambling commission site.

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! · Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:58 pm

harry2 wrote:Nothing on gambling commission site.

The thing is Harry, the Gambling Commission simply don't know their arse from their elbows.
I've had many dealings with them regarding P&O Ferries, Irish Ferries, Global Draw and various bookmakers and they just don't have a clue.

They don't know basic things like static & progressive pots, even though it is stated in their rules. Both me & my mate have had dozens of phonecalls and emails with them and they are, quite plainly, thick as shit.

They didn't know what an updated program (chip) was. All they said was that the original program had been passed, and wouldn't accept that a new tweaked program could be put in a machine.
All they kept saying was "I can assure you that machines are not fitted with any program apart from the original".

Totally useless.

Any of you are welcome to contact them and see for yourselves.

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:14 am

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! wrote:The thing is Harry, the Gambling Commission simply don't know their arse from their elbows.
I've had many dealings with them regarding P&O Ferries, Irish Ferries, Global Draw and various bookmakers and they just don't have a clue.

They don't know basic things like static & progressive pots, even though it is stated in their rules. Both me & my mate have had dozens of phonecalls and emails with them and they are, quite plainly, thick as shit.

They didn't know what an updated program (chip) was. All they said was that the original program had been passed, and wouldn't accept that a new tweaked program could be put in a machine.
All they kept saying was "I can assure you that machines are not fitted with any program apart from the original".

Totally useless.

Any of you are welcome to contact them and see for yourselves.

Never had to deal with them (except about getting a licence for two clubbers in local club) but they have consultation papers published and agree to any increases in stakes and/or prizes, don't they. Have found nearly all government agencies to be next to useless in the past.

Mystery_Plum · Post by **Mystery_Plum** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:04 am

I cannot see what benefit increasing the jackpots will have. I know in the past there have been triennial reviews but it's got past that stage now - there is nowhere left to go before Cat C games start to become almost like Category B4 'clubbers'. The prizes are already too high. They might as well do away with Category C completely and just have Cat D and B3 - maybe increase Cat D to 20p / £10. But then because of the new regs you need Cat C machines in order to get an allocation for B3, meaning you end up filling your arcade with Cat C stuff that doesn't take any money because people just punt the B3 stuff. It's a sorry mess when you think about it.

Bring back token jackpots I say! Bring back the days where you could go into town in the morning with £30 or your paper-round money, get some tokens up on the 5p/£6 token Road Hogs / Hyper Vipers / Viva Las Vegas and so on when the exchanges were coming all the way down, and then just trundle along looking for opportunities on the 20p machines. Two pints on the line on Around the Town, a top-line for cherries on Coronation Street (hi-lo once and exchange into the feature and the sevens would often be only a couple of nudges away for an easy jackpot), a boxes set-up on a Project machine, two balloons on the line on a Fairground, someone has a red-tank feature on It's a Knockout and leaves it straight away...there were endless opportunities.

Before you knew it you had 2 or 3 crisp £20 notes tucked in your wallet and plenty of tokens left so you didn't have to break into your cash. And then at the end of the day if you still had tokens left and didn't want to take them home in case your parents found them and knew you'd been gambling all day instead of going to the cinema / ice-skating / swimming, you could get vouchers with them, or even better - one of my local arcades had a shop at the back where you could spend tokens - a nice £6 token jackpot from a red bars exchange onto '180' on Andy's Great Escape got you a couple of packs of smokes, a can of coke, a Mars bar and a Chomp to eat on the way home.

Those were the days - none of this 'spend £100 in 15 minutes, then go and draw a monkey out of the bank' bullshit. Just good old-fashioned amusement, no harm done, no houses re-mortgaged or anything stupid like that.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:31 am

The Plum could not be more correct. An excellent post.