Playing with the Houses Money

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Playing with the Houses Money

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might be a bit of a daft question but say you won some money on the sport section of a online bookmakers and than transfered to the slots / casion section, would they treat the money ay different i.e a fresh transaction or know its from themselves. Machines are random they say but just wondered say you won £200 from a £10 bet on the horses then put the £200 on a casino game would they treat that as your £200 or £190 of theirs and £10 of yours and the games play worse?
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Don't see why it would make a diffrence, but you never know what them robbing cunts are like. Just stay away is all I can say
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Im off to the casino next weekend and am very tempted to try 5,10,20,40,80,160,320,640,1280 double up on Roulette
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Don't trust the computers ! Only bet on things that you can see, like 3 card monte.
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Post by streakseims »

Id love to Video that double up bet! a 1280 spin!
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Post by trayhop123 »

evans ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ah the old martalwombatgale system

youve got about 9 bets there ,,,,,,,,,, with roughly a £2500 float .

hmmm

infact i suppose you can extend it by one bet , by staking the £5 bet twice for a money back situation ,


but still , 9 or 10 reds/blacks in a row arnt that uncommon ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, could get burned .


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ps . ,,,,,,,,,, ANYONE ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, taking uk casino gambling laws/rules into account (of which i am clueless) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what's the longest possible martingale string you could make ,,,,,, starting from the casinos minimum bet ,,,,,,,,, and finishing at the casino limit ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, how much would you need ? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i expect that the float required would be huuuugggeeeee ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and if you had that type of money ,it would negate the need to gamble in the first place lol
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Post by spa »

e4ans wrote:Im off to the casino next weekend and am very tempted to try 5,10,20,40,80,160,320,640,1280 double up on Roulette
To make £5. What's the worst case loss here? Ask yourself is it worth £5.
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Post by harry2 »

You make £5, but that isn't enough, is it. £10, £20, £50. Easy money.

Its only 206/1 to lose £1275 and you've probably reached the table limit of £1,000.


ps forgot to factor in casino rules of half stake back for zero on even money bets, but is makes ultra little difference.
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Post by LordOoze »

Are we talking outside bets and doubling up after every losing spin?

If so most casinos tend to a £5 minimum on outside and cap at £1000. Though you could go over by putting £112 on each of the 18 numbers. Then £224 if limits allowed. So last spin would be £2016...

The same above system is nicer when doing dozens as there are more options but the variation in wins are haphazard as sometimes there are greater returns than at other times.


If you were doing hi-lo numbers then my local will let you do £1000 on the 1-3 street (or is that an avenue)
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Post by mr cheese »

Totaly different but i have thought about this double up bet on the Irish Lottery,just on 1 number which i think pays 6-1...
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Has anyone ever tried ‘forcing’ a roulette wheel? I’ve started doing this, done it about 10 times now and made a good profit each time. I don’t go to the casino often and when I do it’s only for ‘fun’ with some mates. I have a system I use to play for enjoyment that gives next to money back odds wise and provides some exciting play, you don’t even need to be that lucky to get a profit – I won’t go into it as it’s very complicated. I do this for about 50 spins, keeping count and also noting which numbers have never come up during those 50 spins. There’s normally only 1 or 2 (on one occasion I had 3).

Then I switch to forcing. I put £5 bets on those numbers each spin until they drop in. If another 30 spins go by without them dropping in then I double up to £10 and so on. Of course you can go up to 35 spins before doubling but the later into your 30/35 spins it lands in the less profit you make. You do need to have a huge float to do this – but you can start at £1 to make it cheaper but obviously you get much less profit. So far I’ve only reached the £10 bets once, all the other times they have dropped in during £5. About £500 is sufficient, which probably isn’t considered a lot by the pro gamblers?

I know statistically every number has an even chance and it’s possible that certain numbers will never drop in – however, in reality that just doesn’t happen. The numbers will come in at some point, it’s just a case of having a high enough float to wait. The two problems with the double up on red / black system is that you are doubling up every spin and only making 2x your original stake. As others have said, a run of 10 reds or blacks in a row is not uncommon, so you can easily hit the table limit and end up with a huge loss. With this system you are only doubling up every 30 spins (or 35) so it takes a VERY long time to hit the table limit. Plus you end up with between 2x and 36x your original stake depending on when the number actually comes in.

10 test samples probably isn’t enough to accurately represent my results, but it seems to be working so far and I’ll carry on until I start to see otherwise.
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Post by Spyder »

please tell me this is you having a joke?
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Post by LordOoze »

Some small things about this 'system'
(1) If you have two numbers that haven't come in and you are putting money on both then after 18 spins you have to increase, likewise if there are three then you only have 13 spins per cycle.

(2) even money double up systems only return a profit of the initial stake.

As for the system. Well I used to play the roulette terminals which told you how many spins since zero last turned up ( I forget which supplier offered this). If I saw this counter >80 I would consider playing and >90 definitely. I lost track of the number of times I ended up chasing the zero lol.

Quite often silly money down. Let us assume counter is 100 (max) then at £5 a spin then 36 spins to be £180 down and 54 spins to be £540 down. Which is more than you can win in one spin.

Either way if your system is working for now then kudos :)
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Post by mr lugsy »

"quit while you are ahead oli".

this is the 2nd best roulette method.

who can guess the best?
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Post by BFK »

£1 split on 17/20?
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