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Forcing question

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:20 pm
by Cf
I'm aware of the general idea of forcing a machine, I think. Basically don't take any prizes and gamble all the way to a jackpot.

But how does a machine register a game when you could win with 100% certainty but chose to not do so.

eg, on a standard game you might have £35 on the cash stack and decide to hi/lo to get it to £70 and lose. I consider this to be a gamble and as such the payout amount isn't increased.

But what of this scenario:

eg, playing double dond, £1/£5 and £1/£70 left with offers of £2 and £35. Obviously you have £1 in your box so it's a straight choice between do you want to win £1 or £35? There's no gamble here. Does the machine at this point assume it's paid out £35 and it's your own stupid fault if you didn't take it?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:45 pm
by edwardb
Assuming it uses a compensator/reflex/stabiliser/pot/bucket or whatever the hell you want to call it, then it will remove whatever you collect.

Think of it as a bank account. You (the machine) put money in when you start a game, you take it out when you get a win. If you don't get a win for whatever reason, the money stays in the pot.

Simple.

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:05 pm
by Matt Vinyl
99.9% of the time, if you do not commit an offered prize to the 'bank', it will in no way affect the 'progression' of the force you are undertaking. :)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:38 pm
by Mattb
Yeah it makes no difference. Only wins paid affect payout percentage, not wins offered and lost etc.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:48 pm
by PMK
Apart from on games shithouse machines. But they're all fuckin terrible.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:31 pm
by steveseagull
PMK wrote:Apart from on games shithouse machines.

I agree.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:47 pm
by Cf
Cheers. I suspected that's how it would work but thought I'd check. I only thought of it when I saw someone stupid enough (random group of lads on a night out) to no deal on that same configuration :)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:58 pm
by silent g
dont force dond's !

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:24 pm
by PMK
Apart from double deal or no deals.

These react beautifully to an AOF(All out force)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:40 pm
by JG
'beautifully'

:lol: :lol: 8) :lol: :lol:


I bumped into a random punter today who told me he'd forced out a Double DOND. Cost £2 for £154 Mega Streak.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:08 pm
by Guest
ive never had a decent result when pushing a double...shitty 82bar ms etc...a helping hand would be greatly appreciated

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:33 pm
by JG
Forced mega = £pointless flat maybe, big maybe, plus up to £20.


Randomly reflexed GATW = good chance of £70- £160, potential £210 on the cards as well.


Probably best not to play 'em.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:21 pm
by dan69
newbie here. how would you force reelkings?keep taking the gamble and hope to get the feature?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:50 pm
by mr lugsy
the guy who posted above you is the one who can provide the definitive answer to your question dan.

welcome to the forum btw.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:51 pm
by pager
Doesn't the gambled amount come off the % anyway win or lose?
So if this is true no-And why would anyone want to force a reelking anyway? :roll: