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thecannonball89
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- Location: dearam cafe
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streakseims
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- Location: United kingdom
whats funny is that if you lose £200 or you keep losing you dont get kicked out and also the signs they have saying
10p play machines here for great value!!!!
Win up to £500 on our casino machines!!!!!
but they should have
10p play machines here for great value
*win to many and you will be barred*
Win up to £500 on our casino machines!!!!!
*you will immediately escorted off site if you win more than 1 or these in a 12 month period*
please feel free to play all the machines in this arcade but remember if you learn anything about them from playing them for years you will be barred for life
many thanks Cocksinhand gaming Ltd
10p play machines here for great value!!!!
Win up to £500 on our casino machines!!!!!
but they should have
10p play machines here for great value
*win to many and you will be barred*
Win up to £500 on our casino machines!!!!!
*you will immediately escorted off site if you win more than 1 or these in a 12 month period*
please feel free to play all the machines in this arcade but remember if you learn anything about them from playing them for years you will be barred for life
many thanks Cocksinhand gaming Ltd
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clarkey1984
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- Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:49 pm
streakseims wrote:lol You must be talking about "keep it real" coz hes been reppin those curtains for as long as i rememberlogopolis Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject:
Blond curtains man (who used to work on Hunstanton Pier and in Beach Arcade) now works in that Wells Cafe Amusements. He once banned me for being an '87000 player'.
WTF is a 87000 player lmao
Ha 'Keep It Real'. Wonder why you call him that! He says he caught me using a key. Obviously I used to key the Dam Buster on the Pier. I guess he must have seen me on camera or something.
Do you look in the pubs? What's in the posh pub in Old Hunstanton? Should be 2 Independent Leisure machines. They have a dial kicking about somewhere.
Lowe and Flotcher!!!mr cheese wrote:has a refil key lowe and fletcher 87000streakseims wrote:lol You must be talking about "keep it real" coz hes been reppin those curtains for as long as i rememberlogopolis Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject:
Blond curtains man (who used to work on Hunstanton Pier and in Beach Arcade) now works in that Wells Cafe Amusements. He once banned me for being an '87000 player'.
WTF is a 87000 player lmao
???PMK wrote:Lowe and Flotcher!!!mr cheese wrote:has a refil key lowe and fletcher 87000streakseims wrote: lol You must be talking about "keep it real" coz hes been reppin those curtains for as long as i remember
WTF is a 87000 player lmao
Bang Tidy,Potatoes,Shittiiiiing,Smash Ya Back Doors In....
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Skeletons on the barrels.
I got barred from Lucky Reels in Coventry (now closed) for using the toilet inapproriately. Apparently Cat(?) and Eddie got barred from there for the same reason. It's bizarre that, because when I asked the lady if I could use the customer toilet (key) she said it was out of order.
I got barred from Holland Park for being a mechanic.
I got barred from Timeout for winning £4 on Spiker The Biker.
I don't mind being asked to finish my current game and leave the premises.
/BOLD TEXT ACTIVATED DERREN BROWN STYLE NOT REALLY BOLD but SUBLIMINAL BOLD you'll THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BOLD./ WHAT REALLY GETS MY GOAT IS THIS. CRABBY BAD ATTITUDE FROM STAFF. EXAMPLE, A BARMAN SLAMMING DOWN YOUR DRINK ON BAR SO THAT THE TOP QUARTER SPILLS ON THE BAR. NOTE: THAT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO GO IN THERE MORE. /NOT BOLD ANYMORE
Unlike some players, if having me in the establishment is not welcome, that's fine, a quiet word, no problem. Obviously PLUGGING WHILST PLAYING etc is a RED RAG TO a BULL.
IGNORANCE on staff member's part is irritating, but part of the game, re THAT wiyb up at Ladbrokes.
So, if I had an arcade, who would be welcome, who would be barred? Well Buddy and winning babe are welcome, they can press their faces up against my old Bar-X kits any time, they won't be able to play out the games as I won't have any, but you'll be free to film my Triple 777 £500s any time you like in case the pots drop in, there will always be hot food and drink to keep you refreshed whilst chasing the 500 sheets. Kesh you're barred and so are you Big Poker barred unfortunately, you're too clued. PMK you can come in and kill my one 'player' machine that I'll have and I'll lock all the doors so you have to play the B3 Return of the Empire (It's NOT STAR WARS! The climbing monkey is back and this time it's random, it's not a made up machine, it does exist!) Project manipulate king that!
I'll have dinging kings galore, so I'm allowed in if I wish.
Sir Ratholer, McStreak you are also barred.
I won't have a Hot wheels, Ziggy, Clowing around or £35/£70 Cluedo so cannonball doubt I'll see you in there anyway.
The door will be 6 foot 9 tall, so Silent G will have to wait outside.
I'll have a Let's play DOND and an Aye Jay Maz for all the £1 suedelings to blag the £210 and vid it up on YouLube. Welcome. Filming is allowed on the premises, as is winning. Toolers will be murdered.
I'll have a £35 wiyb permenently switched off just to annoy you all.
Actually you're all allowed in, all of you, no barrings, everyone unbarred, sorry to have even thought of barring anyone, everyone allowed in.
As for the old argument about players *help* with the take, it is something I disagree with. We are parasites and are bad for the business, best to keep head down and get on with it. See Mortal Wombat posting, as I have no link, just remember it. Chefs banging pans in kitchen. It's an unusual take from a player's perspective, I grant you that.
If I was a Landlord/arcade owner you'd all be barred. Well maybe let in on good behavioural grounds. Barred. No unbarred. Barred again.
I'll have Betcrest zero Rainbow Riches in play, so Ob you're allowed in, also an old Screenplay on 98% payout, so something for Kidgloves but no fiddling with my decrepit m1a technology in a way as to obtain money deceitfully.
No seriously.
Look at this example.
B oris is a player and takes the value out of a machine called Golden Monopoly every day.
D oris is a puntling, thick skinned and non picky with a pension burning a hole in her compression hosiery.
Arcade A welcomes Boris and Doris.
When the Golden Monopoly starts yodelling for the main feature, Doris takes it and is ecstatic to get £35, whilst Boris knows that if you nudge in Cherry-doughnut-property magnate-banana skin-leprechaun-coconut shy-dial-mustard gas-panther cum-pink box-double bar you'll get a free £5 or £15 or £wierdy pot or £repeat pot type win before it winds down with the non yodel roll in for £35.
Anyhow, Boris plays it out and clears £100 of value, bizarrely the Golden Monopoly is on 100% payout.
Now Doris plays it with the daily dose of £100 in her Scholl stockings (closed toe to avoid monetary loss). She puts in £100 and pays for the lost value.
In arcade B (essentially arcade A but under new management) BORIS is barred and told to get on his bike and ride to Westminster.
Doris pops in and TRY AS SHE will she can't lose that £100, it just gets paid back and back, she gets her entertainment on her favourite machine AND eventually she moves on and dabbles on a Rainbow Riches and loses it all in 832 seconds, with a maximum win of £10.50 on 90% payout.
There is no defying it, players COST(*) the Industry. I'm not afraid to admit it. Me going in a pub and playing out, say an Indy that is always ready, maybe costing an average of £25 each week, for 10 weeks that's £250 played through, have I made the pub £25 if it's on 90% (ha!)?
NO! I've taken £450 that could potentially have been PURE profit in the box if paid to the right punter re: Lugsy's post.
Taken to extremes, Power 5 unchipped, takes me ages to get it out, I have to cycle through 2k to get a full £250 hopper, it's on 70% payout, have I made the pub £600? - HAVE I FOOK! I've most likely cost them their loyal gambling consumer base. Maybe short term some muntling will put back the Ks to get it level, but it'll come at a greater long term cost, trust me.
(*)This is a very black and white view of it assuming two levels of skill
PLAYER and NON PLAYER. However it's an apt model (in my opinion) with slightly less validity as the complexity of the player base increases.
TO BE FAIR to all those who say it makes no difference, with VARIOUS GRADUATIONS of PLAYER SKILL/TYPES, it has FAR LESS BEARING. Partly as a larger player base can swallow up 'missing' chunks of % and partly due to some interesting maths that boils down to big fish and bigger fish et al
The point remains though that a proper top boy player is NEVER any GOOD (maybe not as bad as I initially made out) to a cashbox in the long run (rare exceptions may be such as recycling of dead Vivids with purely top players as clientel), however we must stop this blinkered view that we are helping cash box earnings, unless you've lost/even to %, you're taking value with no intentions of spending it back....it's a leak, any PLAYER capable of making money from s34 AWP and I class MYSELF in that bracket is a leak from the operator's point of view. A leak that needs patching up.
The problem lies with BARRING people for INAPPROPRIATE REASONS. Yes the players may get barred for using a refill key, profitable decision, but SIMPLE SIMON who bought his key for £30 off Ebay and doesn't know his COCONUT SHY from his BLUE CASH TRAIL will be UNPROFITABLY BARRED.
TO MAXIMISE CASHBOX PROFITS YOU SIMPLY MUST STOP **TRUE** PLAYERS, PLAYING OUT YOUR MACHINES. YOU MUST BLOCK THE VALUE TAKERS.
If any player feels guilty reading this, don't. Falling in the top percentiles of compensated AWP ability is no different in model to being a pro poker player. It's parasitic but then so are many jobs. It's bizarre, true. Morally wrong, no. Not if you play fair and play the games. Hide your talents and play the game. It's frustrating when you get barred for eating a Cornish Pasty. The ignoramus who bars you will have made the RIGHT move, but for the wrong reasons. It happens. I cannot see how this is such a commonly touted theory that playing boosts cashbox earnings.
It's a provocative point and I expect some flames, but there we go.
I'd also be interested to know what the top SWP boys think of this in terms of non emptiable, but profitable quiz games. Probably more Jo Muntlings who are equally happy to play DOND on 80,000 or 20,000.
I got barred from Lucky Reels in Coventry (now closed) for using the toilet inapproriately. Apparently Cat(?) and Eddie got barred from there for the same reason. It's bizarre that, because when I asked the lady if I could use the customer toilet (key) she said it was out of order.
I got barred from Holland Park for being a mechanic.
I got barred from Timeout for winning £4 on Spiker The Biker.
I don't mind being asked to finish my current game and leave the premises.
/BOLD TEXT ACTIVATED DERREN BROWN STYLE NOT REALLY BOLD but SUBLIMINAL BOLD you'll THINK IT'S ACTUALLY BOLD./ WHAT REALLY GETS MY GOAT IS THIS. CRABBY BAD ATTITUDE FROM STAFF. EXAMPLE, A BARMAN SLAMMING DOWN YOUR DRINK ON BAR SO THAT THE TOP QUARTER SPILLS ON THE BAR. NOTE: THAT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO GO IN THERE MORE. /NOT BOLD ANYMORE
Unlike some players, if having me in the establishment is not welcome, that's fine, a quiet word, no problem. Obviously PLUGGING WHILST PLAYING etc is a RED RAG TO a BULL.
IGNORANCE on staff member's part is irritating, but part of the game, re THAT wiyb up at Ladbrokes.
So, if I had an arcade, who would be welcome, who would be barred? Well Buddy and winning babe are welcome, they can press their faces up against my old Bar-X kits any time, they won't be able to play out the games as I won't have any, but you'll be free to film my Triple 777 £500s any time you like in case the pots drop in, there will always be hot food and drink to keep you refreshed whilst chasing the 500 sheets. Kesh you're barred and so are you Big Poker barred unfortunately, you're too clued. PMK you can come in and kill my one 'player' machine that I'll have and I'll lock all the doors so you have to play the B3 Return of the Empire (It's NOT STAR WARS! The climbing monkey is back and this time it's random, it's not a made up machine, it does exist!) Project manipulate king that!
I'll have dinging kings galore, so I'm allowed in if I wish.
Sir Ratholer, McStreak you are also barred.
I won't have a Hot wheels, Ziggy, Clowing around or £35/£70 Cluedo so cannonball doubt I'll see you in there anyway.
The door will be 6 foot 9 tall, so Silent G will have to wait outside.
I'll have a Let's play DOND and an Aye Jay Maz for all the £1 suedelings to blag the £210 and vid it up on YouLube. Welcome. Filming is allowed on the premises, as is winning. Toolers will be murdered.
I'll have a £35 wiyb permenently switched off just to annoy you all.
Actually you're all allowed in, all of you, no barrings, everyone unbarred, sorry to have even thought of barring anyone, everyone allowed in.
As for the old argument about players *help* with the take, it is something I disagree with. We are parasites and are bad for the business, best to keep head down and get on with it. See Mortal Wombat posting, as I have no link, just remember it. Chefs banging pans in kitchen. It's an unusual take from a player's perspective, I grant you that.
If I was a Landlord/arcade owner you'd all be barred. Well maybe let in on good behavioural grounds. Barred. No unbarred. Barred again.
I'll have Betcrest zero Rainbow Riches in play, so Ob you're allowed in, also an old Screenplay on 98% payout, so something for Kidgloves but no fiddling with my decrepit m1a technology in a way as to obtain money deceitfully.
No seriously.
Look at this example.
B oris is a player and takes the value out of a machine called Golden Monopoly every day.
D oris is a puntling, thick skinned and non picky with a pension burning a hole in her compression hosiery.
Arcade A welcomes Boris and Doris.
When the Golden Monopoly starts yodelling for the main feature, Doris takes it and is ecstatic to get £35, whilst Boris knows that if you nudge in Cherry-doughnut-property magnate-banana skin-leprechaun-coconut shy-dial-mustard gas-panther cum-pink box-double bar you'll get a free £5 or £15 or £wierdy pot or £repeat pot type win before it winds down with the non yodel roll in for £35.
Anyhow, Boris plays it out and clears £100 of value, bizarrely the Golden Monopoly is on 100% payout.
Now Doris plays it with the daily dose of £100 in her Scholl stockings (closed toe to avoid monetary loss). She puts in £100 and pays for the lost value.
In arcade B (essentially arcade A but under new management) BORIS is barred and told to get on his bike and ride to Westminster.
Doris pops in and TRY AS SHE will she can't lose that £100, it just gets paid back and back, she gets her entertainment on her favourite machine AND eventually she moves on and dabbles on a Rainbow Riches and loses it all in 832 seconds, with a maximum win of £10.50 on 90% payout.
There is no defying it, players COST(*) the Industry. I'm not afraid to admit it. Me going in a pub and playing out, say an Indy that is always ready, maybe costing an average of £25 each week, for 10 weeks that's £250 played through, have I made the pub £25 if it's on 90% (ha!)?
NO! I've taken £450 that could potentially have been PURE profit in the box if paid to the right punter re: Lugsy's post.
Taken to extremes, Power 5 unchipped, takes me ages to get it out, I have to cycle through 2k to get a full £250 hopper, it's on 70% payout, have I made the pub £600? - HAVE I FOOK! I've most likely cost them their loyal gambling consumer base. Maybe short term some muntling will put back the Ks to get it level, but it'll come at a greater long term cost, trust me.
(*)This is a very black and white view of it assuming two levels of skill
PLAYER and NON PLAYER. However it's an apt model (in my opinion) with slightly less validity as the complexity of the player base increases.
TO BE FAIR to all those who say it makes no difference, with VARIOUS GRADUATIONS of PLAYER SKILL/TYPES, it has FAR LESS BEARING. Partly as a larger player base can swallow up 'missing' chunks of % and partly due to some interesting maths that boils down to big fish and bigger fish et al
The point remains though that a proper top boy player is NEVER any GOOD (maybe not as bad as I initially made out) to a cashbox in the long run (rare exceptions may be such as recycling of dead Vivids with purely top players as clientel), however we must stop this blinkered view that we are helping cash box earnings, unless you've lost/even to %, you're taking value with no intentions of spending it back....it's a leak, any PLAYER capable of making money from s34 AWP and I class MYSELF in that bracket is a leak from the operator's point of view. A leak that needs patching up.
The problem lies with BARRING people for INAPPROPRIATE REASONS. Yes the players may get barred for using a refill key, profitable decision, but SIMPLE SIMON who bought his key for £30 off Ebay and doesn't know his COCONUT SHY from his BLUE CASH TRAIL will be UNPROFITABLY BARRED.
TO MAXIMISE CASHBOX PROFITS YOU SIMPLY MUST STOP **TRUE** PLAYERS, PLAYING OUT YOUR MACHINES. YOU MUST BLOCK THE VALUE TAKERS.
If any player feels guilty reading this, don't. Falling in the top percentiles of compensated AWP ability is no different in model to being a pro poker player. It's parasitic but then so are many jobs. It's bizarre, true. Morally wrong, no. Not if you play fair and play the games. Hide your talents and play the game. It's frustrating when you get barred for eating a Cornish Pasty. The ignoramus who bars you will have made the RIGHT move, but for the wrong reasons. It happens. I cannot see how this is such a commonly touted theory that playing boosts cashbox earnings.
It's a provocative point and I expect some flames, but there we go.
I'd also be interested to know what the top SWP boys think of this in terms of non emptiable, but profitable quiz games. Probably more Jo Muntlings who are equally happy to play DOND on 80,000 or 20,000.