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The Dark Horse · Post by **The Dark Horse** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:26 am

Bling King Crazy was blatant industry fraud. I very much doubt anyone worked it out by checking if every win registered without any kind of insight. I doubt they checked every win registering on every game they ever played after that. If they did do that they would definitely have lost more money on fruit machines than they had earned over their life.

Those Maygays were a long time ago Lee. Empties are usually less obviously fraudulent nowadays, thanks to industry crack downs no doubt. Free wins are rarely used in empties these days, it would definitely never be a profitable move to check every win on every new game to see whether it registers. I stand by my former comment.....you would have to be an absolute idiot to do that.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:47 am

maybe,,,,,,,,, guess we'll never know , unless one materialise's in the future.

i like what you say about ( applying old method tests , obviously ) and improving what you allready know , but the truth of the matter is , you could OWN a machine for ten years and not find shit. ,,,,,,,, such is the complexity of permatations ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and there could still be something on it.

like i said earlier ,,,,,,,, max kudos to those that experiment .

but its time and money i'de rather keep .

happy being an average tortoise ,,,,,,, i wont be eating caviar anytime soon ,,,,,,,, but i wont risk ever eating breadcrumbs either .

The Dark Horse · Post by **The Dark Horse** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:08 am

Experimenting shouldn't be the huge effort you see it as Lee. Just a part of everyday play as you go along, sometimes you just stumble on things by luck or the fact they are obvious. It's not about sitting on a game putting thousands through it trying everything. If you want to do that you buy the unit and resell it after.

You are right there are some games you could own for ten years and not work out, but there are some you could have worked in half an hour if you had just tried.

kidgloves · Post by **kidgloves** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:40 pm

Makes you think what possible empties have never been found, and the players and manus are still blissfully unaware of that code still out there waiting to be exploited. Can you imagine if it was something so obscure, but applied to ALL machines with the same gameplay, i.e. say DOND scam involving attract mode and timing - Bell fruit having to issue recalls/switch offs of every DOND unit in the land.

maverick69 · Post by **maverick69** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:12 pm

phrase that pays, that must have been an insider to leave that 30p credit in, no one worked that out

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:01 pm

I worked out 2 emptys when i was a kid.

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! · Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:41 pm

I really don't think many empties or methods are deliberately put in programs.

The programs are geared to a set path and it's when the machine is played differently to what was expected, that's when strange things happen. The time I find things out is after a long day and I'm watching the TV and casually thinking back over the day, and things just pop into my head. Most of the times it comes to nothing though.