New stakes and Prizes

[Barry Trotter]

I feel it about time that i add something to this thread... It is NOT the fault of the programmers, manufacturers or anyone else designing the games that we have 50p play, £35 jackpots on 78% or worse...

It is down to the people who put the machines in pubs, arcades, or the like, to decide what price of play and jackpots the machines are on. If the government give 60p, £60 jackpot, then the people who buy the machines will ask for it to be in the games they buy, and to stay in business, the manufacturers have to comply. B3 (£500) games are the exception to the rule, and will hopefully stay on higher percentage payouts.

The sooner the people who operate the machines realise that on high jackpots, high stakes and prizes will eventually yield better results, the better.

We shall see....

But there are ways to make games play well, even on 60p, £60... although i have to say its a f**king ridiculous idea.... If anyone from DCMS is reading this - have you not realised that the most frequent cash amount used to play is £1 (as in a £1 coin) and, strangely, £1 can not be divided equally in to 60p units!!!!

[mjd]

wont be long before machines have a debit card slot...

[redlinesman]

The industry will always push for bigger jackpots because there is a proven link between the higher the jackpot - the bigger the profits. Its old school stuff really, the only reason people are bothered on this board is that they are worried it will be the end of thngs. Casinos want to to go as high as they can, bingo halls do, arcades want to go as high as they can, so do pubs and clubs, at the end of the day it equals more profit for them.

[red22]

well not sure if it will be the end of players yet . maybe instead of my usual float ill have to take out a bag of sand in coins !!!! if they remained the same programs or clones i would still play them for forces on reds etc .


tell you a group of people that will like em though, and there will be a massive influx of..


TOOLERS

bigger hoppers etc they will love em.

[trayhop123]

no mjd ,,,,,,,,,,, they will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever have a debit/credit card slot

because when people like us lot get an empty, were just gonna sit on one unit till were kicked off it, maxing up our bank balances.







also theres one of those novelty ticket beards in namco london eye if anyone fancies investing £40 for a paper london flag or a badge etc

[wildcat]

DCMS today announced proposed new details, 60p play £60 prize!!!!
Good or bad ?

if this happens, i can see this sort of "AWP" properly killing off the pub industry, 50p/£50 jackpot is the way , or go back 10 or so years £15/25 jacky's. pubs need all the help they can get in the current climate and increasing the stake is not gonna help at all!!

[MoterWayServiceMan]

Bring back 15 and 8pound jackpots

[uber-pro]

Your all talking about these stake/prize increases, but appart from the machines that will get an update, isn't the more pressing point the whole forced Random behaviour from now on?!

Infact, wont that mean that any games that do get upgraded must also be made random??

[HorseRacingKing]

Your all talking about these stake/prize increases, but appart from the machines that will get an update, isn't the more pressing point the whole forced Random behaviour from now on?!

Infact, wont that mean that any games that do get upgraded must also be made random??

Basically fruit machine players might aswell start filling in job applications now

pmsl

[borgcontact4]

The Technical standards by which manufacturers now have to live by allow non random games to stay in the market. Manufacturers do not have to submit Cat C.
We ave been told by our directors that we will be going 50p with £60.00 prize. So thats what maybe the industry will go with as we normally keep in line with the other guys in the biz.

[JG]

That's exactly the bowling alley I was referring to....you deserve 1,000,000 points for mentioning it.

gotta love the £1 per person per game that they normally do at the start of the year.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for that. I saw they had a £2/person/game of bowling offer midweek. I resisted the urge to put £2 in that Deal or no Deal.

[HorseRacingKing]

£2 must mean alot to you

[JG]

£2 must mean alot to you

Pardon? I thought we were friends now? Gradually we were working on our friendship, then BOOM! you had to fire that rather sarcastic, loaded question at me. No worries, I still like you, but not in a gay way.

For a string of poxy tickets which will probably equate to 0.25 games of bowling, I decided to leave it. At the end of the day, I've played DOND plenty of times now, just because it's on a big screen and not a few decals and an LED, didn't justify the £2 expenditure.

I mean would you pay £1 for a dead wasp? Probably not, it doesn't mean you particularly value £1. A pounds a pound. What's it worth? A few rolls of gift wrap from the 99p store? No it's worth more than that. A litre of petrol? No it's not quite worth that. Three hours car parking in the car park in Rugby town centre? Yes that's worth a pound.

[mr lugsy]

3 hours parking for the princely sum of 1 pound.............luxury,when i were a lad we used to dream about dreaming about parking a car for a pound,we had to squeeze into the last remaining gap on the double yellows end on ,and deal(or no deal)with the consequences.

remember the days when your pound used to stretch a loooooooonnnnnnng way? soon it won't get you 2 presses of a button :x
you won't want to be playing a x.x.x.x.x on .6 of a nugget after rufus rinser has buzzed it up to xxxnxx xxxnxx xnx xxxn xxxxn xxxx xx xxxx.
on the plus side though 3-400 in won't take so long,after all time is worth more than money,is it not?

anyway back to the topic now,novelty dond was'nt it?....................new idea for a dond number 12345, a further upgreed to the dond franchise. do away with the reels ,people don't want them any more ,a super start that goes onto the feature once every 20 quid will keep everyone happy,the witty retort of dealmaster N is of course to be left in,but upgraded to super witty retort including dramatic irony(c).any old dolby 8.1 will do for noels waxing lyrical.the dond game itself should be on a 50" dx sceen at least.
and as for the prizes;
a specially minted noelesque coin for the booby box,a range of dond memorabilia including bakerlite phone, keyrings and badges.silverbeard disguise kits,fabulous patterned shirts,genuine bottled tears from actual "lucky contestants",the dvd game of the show (where you had to flick through the whole blinking list of remaining boxes to tediously choose the next one)the complete boxed set of all the the 250,000 pound winners on dvd ,the inexpensive emptier for x.x.x.x.x and the jackpot ,a 6 foot cardboard effigy of mr edmonds himself ,reputably worth 200 pounds(or 333 spins and a part cred on a new AMUSEMENT WITH PRIZES).

[Barry Trotter]

The Technical standards by which manufacturers now have to live by allow non random games to stay in the market. Manufacturers do not have to submit Cat C.
We ave been told by our directors that we will be going 50p with £60.00 prize. So thats what maybe the industry will go with as we normally keep in line with the other guys in the biz.

I'm guessing you're in the industry - and if you are, you'll know too well that the retailers will ask for 60p, £60 jackpot. And the manufacturers will have no alternative but to give it to them.

The same was said by certain companies when 30p became the maximum stake, yet it was still almost universally asked for by all the major retailers.

Hopefully, someone in power will see sense and make a common sense decision - unfortunately, as far as this government goes, common sense isn't allowed a place in law.

I have to add though - having just read the reasons for a 60p stake, i do understand why they are suggesting it.