Wetherspoons

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:38 pm

Yep, if you spent 2 hours in there doing a load of money, do you think they'd bar you??

If a pub cannot handle someone winning on a machine, they shouldn't have them in there.

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:52 pm

And i hope that the takings are still down in there, which i would guess they will be, as the place was getting tooled to death every refill day before anyway, any machines with a notey fitted were £200+ off full all the time, this is on refill day remember, whereas ones with no notey were either full or not far off.

So yeah, i hope its still getting done in a way, as at least it proves that we werent to blame for it.

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:01 pm

clarkey1984 wrote:And i hope that the takings are still down in there, which i would guess they will be, as the place was getting tooled to death every refill day before anyway, any machines with a notey fitted were £200+ off full all the time, this is on refill day remember, whereas ones with no notey were either full or not far off.

So yeah, i hope its still getting done in a way, as at least it proves that we werent to blame for it.

Isn't it funny how you never really hear of toolers being barred?

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:28 pm

Precisely what i thought sir ratholer, as whatever tooling involves must look VERY suspicious in comparison to just playing a machine legit.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:35 pm

Toolers are usually in and out sharpish

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:24 am

Weatherspoons started out trumpeting the fact that they didn't have music, machines, singing, fun... just drink apparently.
Then all of a sudden they realised there was money in it.... so they filled the place with fruit machines, DJs, jukeboxes, shITbox, all the the rest.

So they deserve the best and the worst of it. Sod em.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:28 am

two things have been said the whole time the internet has been a resorse for fruit players

1) loose lips cause rechips

2) the machines dont owe you anything..

stop being so fucking mardy.. you got barred cause of your bad judgement of the venue you were in..

all of the things you mention are common, and not new at all...

deal with it.

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:20 am

Spyder wrote: stop being so fucking mardy.. you got barred cause of your bad judgement of the venue you were in..

Wtf?? Bad judgement of venue?

What are you supposed to say then - oh look a playable machine in there, better not go in though in case I get barred!

And when exactly would you exercise such judgement regarding a Wetherspoons - better not go in one of those, too on top!!

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:07 pm

sir ratholer wrote: Wtf?? Bad judgement of venue?
What are you supposed to say then - oh look a playable machine in there, better not go in though in case I get barred!
And when exactly would you exercise such judgement regarding a Wetherspoons - better not go in one of those, too on top!!

they also have a lot of kitchen staff... who we all know like playing the machines..

if ya get kicked out ya get kicked out...

jsut stop moaning about it...

fucking videoing staff for evidence... lol

funny thing is.. ya video them and send it off to their head office...

ya get let back in...

then someone tells you the empty to deal or no deal gold...

then every fucker behind the bar in on top cause they see you do it once and theyre videoing you back... YOUTUBE and ebay here we come...

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:25 pm

Well i think players have every right to moan about it TBH spyder, as being kicked out of somewhere for NO REASON is unfair, plus the silly accusations of cheating the machines etc, which 99.9% of the time is totally untrue, and people have a right to be pissed off about it if they are getting heat for legitimate play, winning a JP off a fruit machine IS NOT A CRIME! it is as simple as that, and if venues can't accept the fact that people will play the machines and win on them then they shouldn't have the fuckers in the first place.

If you honestly think that players deserve to be kicked out of places when they have done nothing wrong then you have a very strange view of whats right and wrong/fair and unfair, and i think that you and PLunion would make a lovely couple, with your downright warped views on fruit players.

DildoDez · Post by **DildoDez** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:52 pm

clarkey1984 wrote:being kicked out of somewhere for NO REASON is unfair

It is. But landlords / managers have the right to bar you for no reason. They can't make up a reason, but they can refuse to serve you, remove you and bar you for no reason if they don't like the look of your face.

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:59 pm

I realise that this is true DildoDez, it's just a shame that this power can be abused by any old member of staff just because they want the machine out themselves or something.

Fair enough, if you are pissed out of your head and kicking off calling the landlord a c**t or trying to start fights with other drinkers, bad behavior, etc... then yeah, you expect to be barred and deserve to be, it's just a shame that you can be barred for doing nothing wrong at all, just coz the jumped up spotty oik behind the bar wants to play the machine and win.

But then again, this has, and will continue to happen for as long into the future as you care to imagine, so the only thing that can be, and is done, is that once one player gets barred. he will pass the machines on to another player so they can go and thrash it, and maybe the other player who he told was barred from somewhere else recently so he tells him about that place in return, so its all swapped about.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:06 am

if you;

wear a cap,
wear tracksuit trousers,
carry a crowbar under your arm,
call everyone "guv",
act cocky,
have a tattoo on your face,
sound like a chav,
hit GUAC with your forehead,
stand at the bar looking at the machine while ordering a half a coke,
stand jungling coins in your pocket,
stand around the machine in groups of 50,

then, in my opinion you have been barred for a reasonable reason.

you will occasionally be asked to leave by a member of staff who wants to play the machine, or by a member of staff who is completely clueless..
but you may also be kicked out by a member of staff/management/landlord, who IS clued up on buisness.. and good buisness in the pub trade, is YOU not winning on the machine.. the reason YOU shouldnt win on the machine, is because YOU will win on it, and take the money away.. other customers might win money, then spend it all in the pub...

regardless on the fact that you pay 20p to them for every £1 you put in, the landlord will be pissed off the second they see you are likely to leave, as 20p in the till is worth more than £20 put in the machine... yeah, he gets his cut, but its his cut of about £200 a week...

and if you think the profit on a pint is as low as written in an earlyer post, most pubs hit about 50-60% profit on beer... so buy 5 pints and he makes a fiver, put £2000 in the machine, he sees fuck all till next week, for all he knows you didnt put anything in for that £100 out

also, 2 years ago when people were going in and completely RAPING the power 5 in that pub, they got wise... and are just looking to weed out the people responsible for the machines making a loss for 3 months running...

yes, in this instant, you went in to play some shite red that might give half a repeat if you bung in £10 more than the jackpot, but last time, or the time before, the player that came in took the hilo silver for 140, the dond for 140 and the cops and robbers for £315 and left them all either empty or virtually empty the day before refill day... and the refill woman gave him £15 in loose change as the machines takings for a week.

so, as i said earlyer

you got barred, deal with it.

streakseims · Post by **streakseims** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:52 pm

but i have dealt with it lmao why are we all argueing about ME getting barred? is this thread called "Buddy gets barred" no its weatherspoons and we are talking about a bowling ally ffs

IF the same happened to you in the same way you would be pissed off totally.
Ive been barred from pubs and just laffed (weatherspoons) but in this instanse the bouncer lady was well out of line in her responcibilities (??? spell check lol) as in Lying and refusing for me to see the manager when i clearly asked to see him and also telling me there is no manager or high staff on site (which is illegal) anything to kick me out
NOW if the manager asked me to leave even if he said i was winning to much or gettin to lucky for his likeing i would gladly leave (LIKE WE DID THE 1st TIME SHE ASKED US TO LEAVE) but when SHE LIED AND SAID MANAGER SAID NOOOOOOOO for us to find out she was lying and be welcomed back by all other staff and management then would wouldnt i act the way i did because lets face it, its no different to how she was acting with me
Fighting fire with fire so to speak, they never had any problems with me untill she would make up anything to get me out

But I lost lmao

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:33 pm

Just write to

FAO: Customer Services
Wetherspoon House
Central Park
Reeds Crescent
Watford
WD24 4QL
Telephone 01923 477777
Fax 01923 219810

and let them know your thoughts on security/bar/kitchen staff playing machines on Wetherspoons premises. Soon nip it in the bud.