A message to all manus.

jeffvickers · Post by **jeffvickers** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:28 am

It is time you disabled all notechangers and fit a notechanger unit at the end of the bar, witnessed by a camera or member of staff.

~The notechanging unit must be manufactured by a trusted company with high security features.

This in turn will give the player a better chance of winning money, because as you know, the money you have lost on the notechange scam, ultimately affects genuine players, by your firms having to reduce percentages to make up for a shortfall in profits.

red22 · Post by **red22** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:12 am

how many more million or billion will that cost? eventually they will have to adopt a similar approach or get rid of note changers altogether.

Gamestec believe JCM notechangers are infallable ( the weird flashing light ones on some quiz machines )

and the guy i know say this is there last shot at it or they will have to go to some kind of plan b.

so far his theory has been provern correct but i am pretty sure it will be beaten at some stage by some clever tooler.

it does make our life harder with note changers agreed , false readings etc but i believe the different leisure companies deserve there punishment , notechangers were installed out of pure greed and have probably ruined several peoples life who have little self control trying to get mega streak out of a dond that is dead.

wouldnt go to dragons den with that idea though.

ill tell you where i am on this ..... the cost is too high on this, and the change machines will end up getting scammed as well... this isnt a business investment opportunity and your asking for too much money....

so for that reason im out !

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:59 pm

well i'm in ,and i'll offer you all the money for half the business...............no hold on, you aint got a business.
not a problem to stick a high security note changer in next to a machine though ,i'm talking at least 9 pin locks aswell ,to deter the likes of tonzy and his pals,probably pay for itself in no time.

flashback · Post by **flashback** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:48 pm

They need to do something, Bell Fruits getting torn to shreds. Again.

I dare say Gamestec will be looking at "Plan B" sooner rather than later.

steven · Post by **steven** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:55 pm

its in the pipeline in 3 months secure as the crown jewels!

joe3_3 · Post by **joe3_3** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:44 am

An interesting thread but why did you decide to start it?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:51 am

how many more million or billion will that cost?

...not many, saving cost on building the machiens = money to spend on the notechanger machines

eventually they will have to adopt a similar approach or get rid of note changers altogether.

... nope

Gamestec believe JCM notechangers are infallable ( the weird flashing light ones on some quiz machines )

and the guy i know say this is there last shot at it or they will have to go to some kind of plan b.

so far his theory has been provern correct but i am pretty sure it will be beaten at some stage by some clever tooler.

......can toolers do the ones on roulette terminals??? hmmm?????

it does make our life harder with note changers agreed , false readings etc but i believe the different leisure companies deserve there punishment , notechangers were installed out of pure greed and have probably ruined several peoples life who have little self control trying to get mega streak out of a dond that is dead.

.... really though, how long would it actually take for joe bloggs who earns £120 a week to lose more than he can afford, yes over a few weeks he'll do his wages in an hour, but at 50p a play things are reasonably controlled??

fruitofthegods · Post by **fruitofthegods** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:23 pm

So what actually happening with the note changers etc?

not really been in the industry for a while.

£1 a spin will be next, anything to save a dying industry.

Why would people wanna put £50 in a fruit machine that gives you very small profit margin when you can deposit £50 and play a slot that pays out 96% + and genuinely win big.

I dont win big on either though... lol

alcozar · Post by **alcozar** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:57 pm

No need for a camera, eagle eyed bar staff in almost every pub do the same job, pretty obvious when someones fiddling a machine when gang of people surround it.

bigpokercouk · Post by **bigpokercouk** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:16 am

every tooler I know currently has cases looming, think you will see some getting serious bird over the next few months

.. and rightly so

bigpokercouk · Post by **bigpokercouk** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:18 am

by the way the notechangers are no longer the issue. It is the way the changers comunicate with the mpu board.

fixing a problem creates a new tool. Simple as that.

MATT99 · Post by **MATT99** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:17 pm

bigpokercouk wrote:by the way the notechangers are no longer the issue. It is the way the changers comunicate with the mpu board.

fixing a problem creates a new tool. Simple as that.

no note changer will be good for us all. £200 hoppers without note changer will be good

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:52 pm

It will certainly make the key useful in non daily fillers.

red22 · Post by **red22** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:27 pm

i am probably wrong but i spose they will disable the keyslot ? back to the old £20 in and see if its dropping + meter readings etc ?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:31 pm

red22 wrote:i am probably wrong but i spose they will disable the keyslot ? back to the old £20 in and see if its dropping + meter readings etc ?

That would mean training the refill birds how to enable them again on float days, which by lookin at some ive seen nigh on impossible