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anfield road
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jeffvickers
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dont even venture into manchester anfield....well covered as jeff knows....erm i dont even know how to do win stoppers and p5's....no-one tells me anything even tho i am a trustworthy, decent kinda fella....i keep myself to myself and play solo 90% ov the time....wish i knew what u fellas knew thats for sure!!
hint hintdegeneration wrote:dont even venture into manchester anfield....well covered as jeff knows....erm i dont even know how to do win stoppers and p5's....no-one tells me anything even tho i am a trustworthy, decent kinda fella....i keep myself to myself and play solo 90% ov the time....wish i knew what u fellas knew thats for sure!!
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Because they're greedy greedy short sighted greedy people. The trouble is, once someone throws down the gauntlet you sometimes have to be a bit aggressive.
It had got to a point with the win stoppers when it was 'nearly all over'. The chip was out and I was leaving a jackpot in the hopper. That's a hefty chunk out of the machine's weekly take. However, never ever ever would I ever considering IOUing just to spite another player, or max out profits. At first I was taking a 1'er to 1'5er depending on float levels and how much it had been played. Then after it all seemed to be all over bar a couple of arcades which have since been chipped, I was driving along a road in my local town, just out of town and I nearly did a U turn there and then. A bookies which I thought had got rid of its AWP had a gold surround in there. Two columns. White dial. I walked in, still happy it wasn't Walk of Wealth or some other shite. £70 richer later and the notechanger light just on, I left as I was tight on time and decided on my strategy.
An unchipped wiyb had been the last thing I'd expected to see. It was kind of ironic. I'd been driving around the crooks and nannies of various other towns. It's hard to face that the game is up you see. When you wake up, got the day off work and it's a drive to y'know and it's a guaranteed big earner, it's a lovely feeling, but you also get paranoid. I did a lot of Wstoppers on my own and you start to get paranoid. Anyone with any savvy could see what you were up to. It takes a lot longer to do it hitting 6s and 10s than 20s and 35s! However discretion is the better part of not giving away good info. With an accomplice (s)he'd have a code word. Anyway, when its all turned sour and it's all going chipped or tuppence in the hopper and maybe you get one half good one then you start thinking that your old run of fruits would be better. yeah you might just nudge the 2'er up, but you've spent hours trudging and trekking, checking out locations etc.
So it had got to the point where I thought, I've made some money, I've taken a few big hoppers, I've bot got barred, beat, hustled, hassled, its been a good one, but the game has finished.
So driving along, having dropped the ball and chain off at a friend's house, last thing I expect to see is a column of red, a column of blue a white dial, a Leisure Link sticker and nice and quiet to boot. One nosey guy in the place.
My plan was, fruits in bookies don't tend to get played so much thanks to fobt and human folly and greed. I decided it was local, I could take £50 out 3 times a week. Enough to keep the books ticking over, enough so that the refill person wouldn't get a shock. Slow and steady. This carried on blissfully for three weeks until week 4 when one Tuesday I popped in there and it's off, cash door open, refill key in slot. Yes, yes, yes, yes - Bad news!
Someone has found it. Now bare in mind that I had clocked the system being sold on Ebay for a fiver. Any Tom Dick or Harry could have done the machine. It might not even have been done. It could be faulty, or LL may have woken up and realised they had a black sheep in the flock.
So - do I now go for the hopper, or carry on with my £50 hits during the week? Yes, it wasn't chipped. I assumed this meant it hadn't been emptied, so carried on with the plan I'd go a couple more weeks and then go for the big hopper.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, naive decision. The current climate, the fact it was a major distributor, Ebay etc I should have said, that's too slow. Go for what you can. I think I took one more £50, missed out one £50 due to work commmitments, went in and it was off. Next time it was on, it was rechipped.
So I made about £500 on it. Not bad, but could I have done more?
That begs the question how tolerant is the company to a poorly performing machine? Who else is doing it? Will low float levels trigger a rechip?
It does get to a point whereby you think, this one won't get rechipped. However with info spreading as it does, these things have more impact. Unchipped Wiyb must be a serious rarity now, ditto P5.
Should I have just gone for as many £220 offs as i could muster? Was £50 three times a week too weedy? Was leaving the notechanger light on too slow?
How would you have played it?
I've met players with greatly differing opinions. Some more aggressive than others. In the early days notechanger light was the limit. Some people say I should have been doing £220s early on - I don't know. Yes, add up all those £70s and you have an extra couple of mortgage repayments sure.
Enough waffle - how would you have played it? And what are your opinions of people who IOU deliberately?
It had got to a point with the win stoppers when it was 'nearly all over'. The chip was out and I was leaving a jackpot in the hopper. That's a hefty chunk out of the machine's weekly take. However, never ever ever would I ever considering IOUing just to spite another player, or max out profits. At first I was taking a 1'er to 1'5er depending on float levels and how much it had been played. Then after it all seemed to be all over bar a couple of arcades which have since been chipped, I was driving along a road in my local town, just out of town and I nearly did a U turn there and then. A bookies which I thought had got rid of its AWP had a gold surround in there. Two columns. White dial. I walked in, still happy it wasn't Walk of Wealth or some other shite. £70 richer later and the notechanger light just on, I left as I was tight on time and decided on my strategy.
An unchipped wiyb had been the last thing I'd expected to see. It was kind of ironic. I'd been driving around the crooks and nannies of various other towns. It's hard to face that the game is up you see. When you wake up, got the day off work and it's a drive to y'know and it's a guaranteed big earner, it's a lovely feeling, but you also get paranoid. I did a lot of Wstoppers on my own and you start to get paranoid. Anyone with any savvy could see what you were up to. It takes a lot longer to do it hitting 6s and 10s than 20s and 35s! However discretion is the better part of not giving away good info. With an accomplice (s)he'd have a code word. Anyway, when its all turned sour and it's all going chipped or tuppence in the hopper and maybe you get one half good one then you start thinking that your old run of fruits would be better. yeah you might just nudge the 2'er up, but you've spent hours trudging and trekking, checking out locations etc.
So it had got to the point where I thought, I've made some money, I've taken a few big hoppers, I've bot got barred, beat, hustled, hassled, its been a good one, but the game has finished.
So driving along, having dropped the ball and chain off at a friend's house, last thing I expect to see is a column of red, a column of blue a white dial, a Leisure Link sticker and nice and quiet to boot. One nosey guy in the place.
My plan was, fruits in bookies don't tend to get played so much thanks to fobt and human folly and greed. I decided it was local, I could take £50 out 3 times a week. Enough to keep the books ticking over, enough so that the refill person wouldn't get a shock. Slow and steady. This carried on blissfully for three weeks until week 4 when one Tuesday I popped in there and it's off, cash door open, refill key in slot. Yes, yes, yes, yes - Bad news!
Someone has found it. Now bare in mind that I had clocked the system being sold on Ebay for a fiver. Any Tom Dick or Harry could have done the machine. It might not even have been done. It could be faulty, or LL may have woken up and realised they had a black sheep in the flock.
So - do I now go for the hopper, or carry on with my £50 hits during the week? Yes, it wasn't chipped. I assumed this meant it hadn't been emptied, so carried on with the plan I'd go a couple more weeks and then go for the big hopper.
Bad, bad, bad, bad, naive decision. The current climate, the fact it was a major distributor, Ebay etc I should have said, that's too slow. Go for what you can. I think I took one more £50, missed out one £50 due to work commmitments, went in and it was off. Next time it was on, it was rechipped.
So I made about £500 on it. Not bad, but could I have done more?
That begs the question how tolerant is the company to a poorly performing machine? Who else is doing it? Will low float levels trigger a rechip?
It does get to a point whereby you think, this one won't get rechipped. However with info spreading as it does, these things have more impact. Unchipped Wiyb must be a serious rarity now, ditto P5.
Should I have just gone for as many £220 offs as i could muster? Was £50 three times a week too weedy? Was leaving the notechanger light on too slow?
How would you have played it?
I've met players with greatly differing opinions. Some more aggressive than others. In the early days notechanger light was the limit. Some people say I should have been doing £220s early on - I don't know. Yes, add up all those £70s and you have an extra couple of mortgage repayments sure.
Enough waffle - how would you have played it? And what are your opinions of people who IOU deliberately?
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jeffvickers
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That's the dilemna in a nutshell. Essentially from one viewpoint the string could stretch to a mile in length, or at least appear that long. From the other viewpoint the string could be barely a few centimetres long.
Over the centuries, clever formulae have been developed to help with the problem of estimating how long a piece of string is - by applying the formula to an everyday situation, it would appear that a piece of string is in actual fact 14.2cm long +/- a couple of miles.
Over the centuries, clever formulae have been developed to help with the problem of estimating how long a piece of string is - by applying the formula to an everyday situation, it would appear that a piece of string is in actual fact 14.2cm long +/- a couple of miles.
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