DOND east and west wing

deano8177 · Post by **deano8177** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:43 pm

I just played it again with a few quid and had another look. It don't have a cash stack, only shots for prizes. The only thing that seems to hold over is the ladder and the red upgrades when it trail holds the ladder(what is every press).

And it also asks you if you want to hold it over.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:32 pm

[quote="Mystery_Plum"]As with most changes to the technical regs, it's all about how you interpret them. What you'll start seeing are games with enticements in them to induce further play, like a gradual name-fill that holds over 100% from game to game until it is completed, and then a feature will be given. Therefore you'll see less action and activity on the reels to pay for this, or if you knock wins back on the reels the trail will fill more quickly]

I can recall games, QPS Shockwave being one example, where on the last credit it would slow-spin a decent hold on the last credit. It was deemed illegal because the machine was enticing you to play on, and rightly so in my opinion.

But now it seems if such methods as you describe are to be employed then surely that is illegal too? It all smacks of desperation if you ask me.

Enticing people to continue gambling in this way is a fucking disgrace. They may as well employ people to follow addicts around and strongarm them into chasing machines.

Fucking nauseating.

Glendale · Post by **Glendale** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:45 pm

As you say mate its desperate but no doubt we will all profit via faults and scams! Average punter doing there crust means we win! Something needed doing as £50+ in and not even getting a board for punters has been stupid!

Captain.Tattybojangles · Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:52 pm

Wonder what happens if you COB bust a board? Does it hold over cos you win nothing or does it say you collected and not give the chance?
Also I wonder if COB will still be bust if it holds over.

uber-pro · Post by **uber-pro** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:26 pm

will have to see these things in action before being sure but holdover will entice punters to play more and may give them a better chance to extract value, effectively helping to level the playing field between them and us.

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:31 pm

The hold over is a like a repeat chance, it's a random chance of happening.

I think it'll be a good addition.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:37 pm

first thing i thought of when reading their site was that it could all be used to give "pots" with less restriction, and "random" payouts like the rainbow riches leprechauns popping up, or wishing wells, mixed into a £70 jackpot videoscreen?..

could this theoreticly pay out more than £70 in one credit (or series of credits connected)? ie.. pots being £210 and it costing you three credits to complete the win? summat like that, i cant seem to explain what i mean with this very well..

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:30 pm

I'm suprised Redlinesman hasn't popped up yet to declare these are the changes he was referring to months ago.

No doubt he's too busy emptying machines that happen to be located in AA* rated restaurants.

Captain.Tattybojangles · Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:38 pm

McStreak, you simpleton...Any refined gentleman knows that the quails eggs are so much more delicately flavoured at this time of year that pressing scummy plastic buttons with commonfolks beer must be saved as a lesser priority. I almost found the drive to venture into one of these uncouth alcohol dens for a secret shameful play, but Renaissance de Rococo telephoned me telling that the Edelweiss petals were begging to be picked.

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:47 am

I find the holdover bit interesting, because it's this inducement to play on that was deliberately removed very recently from SWPs (I'm thinking By Any Means, and others). Would be odd to have an AWP next to an SWP in a pub and two very different schools of thought being presented to the same punter.

That statement about Cashpots is interesting too ...

www.bellfruitgames.co.uk/news.atm wrote:-Cashpots: A technical fix has been announced to remove an unintended restriction on the use of pots on Cat C machines.

So, an 'unintended restriction'. What could that mean? It can't be referring to tiered prizes (eg. Gold/Silver/Bronze progressives) as there's already that dreadful Big Bucks Deluxe out there, so that can't be the issue. Could it be the 25p stake limiting the cashpot to £25? Or is it something completely different ...

Any ideas welcomed.

uber-pro · Post by **uber-pro** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:00 am

what about the technical definition of 'cashpot' - maybe they had to be build up separately which is what makes them essentially free. maybe they can advertise a non compensated 'cashpot' now... pure guess

kong · Post by **kong** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:08 am

Nixxy wrote:I find the holdover bit interesting, because it's this inducement to play on that was deliberately removed very recently from SWPs (I'm thinking By Any Means, and others). Would be odd to have an AWP next to an SWP in a pub and two very different schools of thought being presented to the same punter.

That statement about Cashpots is interesting too ...

www.bellfruitgames.co.uk/news.atm wrote:-Cashpots: A technical fix has been announced to remove an unintended restriction on the use of pots on Cat C machines.
So, an 'unintended restriction'. What could that mean? It can't be referring to tiered prizes (eg. Gold/Silver/Bronze progressives) as there's already that dreadful Big Bucks Deluxe out there, so that can't be the issue. Could it be the 25p stake limiting the cashpot to £25? Or is it something completely different ...

Any ideas welcomed.

Mega DOND was never restricted to £25 on 25p, so presumably that wasn't even a legal requirement. The only other thing I can think is that they want to make the CP available via a win on the reels?

The building of features and bonuses thing sounds interesting. I would imagine the key challenge for the manufacturer at this time is to re-ignite the interest of the casual players, this could be something that does that. Whether they deliberately or inadvertently retain something for the higher level player remains to be seen...

Captain.Tattybojangles · Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:12 pm

If this has the auto collect turbo like Bankjob and that;...What does it do if you get a board to hold over, then next win you lose the turbo gamble and have to collect a quid or so?

JPMmonopoly60 · Post by **JPMmonopoly60** » Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:53 pm

Had this one say "COB will be Mega Streak" the other day, it was a dead board too, shot £1 cash shot then £2 cash shot then question mark after landing a message of course.

The fruit matrix completes a LOT too, had it no fewer than 10 times in a £40 play, not once did it light 3 phones.

The holdover aspect of the machine seemed to carry forward your board from the previous go, if you had shot out £1, £4 and £2 then they stayed shot out for the following board.

It does have the auto collect thing that bank jobs and clones do, which is annoying.

When both "wings" are open, you cant die until it closes one or both.

Gibbons · Post by **Gibbons** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:44 pm

I'll have mine with salt 'n vinegar.