Either way is perfectly acceptable, and both are used in machines in the UK. Jackpot Party uses the "honest" method, but by doing so, it means that you CAN pick a Pooper on the first pick. In many countries (i.e USA, where Jackpot Party originates from), they have to be truly random... i.e the picks HAVE to be done this way. In the UK, it is perfectly acceptable (and legal) to predetermine the result, as long as that result is determined randomly and the feature is just a means of showing the outcome to the player.
The Jackpot Party method...
Let's say there are 6 boxes: £1, £2, £3, £5, £10 and £100. If i pick the £1, i get a quid and the feature is over. At most, i can win £121. But on my first pick, there is a 1 in 6 chance of picking the £1. If i miss, on my next pick it's 1 in 5. So the chance of you picking all 6 (the £1 last) is 1in 6. The feature will have a mathematical average (which i can't be arsed to work out) which it will naturally hit. Lets say its £15.
The Predetermined method....
Now lets do the same feature predetermined. My average win is still going to be £15, but this time, at the start, i'm going to decide which boxes i let you choose. Now, obviously, I don't want you to lose on your first pick, so i'm ALWAYS going make sure you don't get £1 first. This makes my minimum win £3. I then produce a set of chances (for all possible outcomes using those six values) which averages my total win at £15. This go, I pick £11. I decide to give you £5 on your first pick, £2 on the second, £3 on the third, and the £1 at the end.
Both these methods would result in the same average return to player per feature.
Which one, as a player, do you think is the fairest? And which one would you prefer? Not a loaded question - just interested to know the answers!
Barry
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Actually the probability of picking all 6 is 1/6 given your description.Barry Trotter wrote:
The Jackpot Party method...
Let's say there are 6 boxes: £1, £2, £3, £5, £10 and £100. If i pick the £1, i get a quid and the feature is over. At most, i can win £121. But on my first pick, there is a 1 in 6 chance of picking the £1. If i miss, on my next pick it's 1 in 5. So the chance of you picking all 6 (the £1 last) is very small (1 in 720).
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Yeah this can happen.Mr McStreak wrote:I recall watching a friend in a casino put £350 into a game called Jackpot Party just to see a feature, which duly went for £6. I was stunned, I mean he was playing it at £2 a spin.
He then informed me it could have quite easily given £2, before cheerily threading another note in.
Nauseating.... A far cry from the good old days thats for sure.
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I do apologise...blackmogu wrote:Actually the probability of picking all 6 is 1/6 given your description.Barry Trotter wrote:
The Jackpot Party method...
Let's say there are 6 boxes: £1, £2, £3, £5, £10 and £100. If i pick the £1, i get a quid and the feature is over. At most, i can win £121. But on my first pick, there is a 1 in 6 chance of picking the £1. If i miss, on my next pick it's 1 in 5. So the chance of you picking all 6 (the £1 last) is very small (1 in 720).
I shall now crawl back in to my box and die an embarrassed death
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harry2 wrote:What makes it crap is that there is only one feature on the game and fairly difficult to get. Then to get a £1 is very annoying. Imagine getting three curtains on Reel King or the Rainbow Riches feature and getting a pound !
Was in an arcade today, playing a wiyb. On leaving I tried a couple of quid in the rainbow riches... no joke I got 5 men, all the locals in the arcade came running over "OMG I have never seen that, it's got to be JP"................................... £75 cheers. Tbh I was expecting at least 125, £75 has to be the least of 5 men?
Never seen the 5 men either, but I've heard off £60 from them, so you didn't get the least!Blackcurrantsoda wrote:harry2 wrote:What makes it crap is that there is only one feature on the game and fairly difficult to get. Then to get a £1 is very annoying. Imagine getting three curtains on Reel King or the Rainbow Riches feature and getting a pound !
Was in an arcade today, playing a wiyb. On leaving I tried a couple of quid in the rainbow riches... no joke I got 5 men, all the locals in the arcade came running over "OMG I have never seen that, it's got to be JP"................................... £75 cheers. Tbh I was expecting at least 125, £75 has to be the least of 5 men?
Piles of crap these random 500's, thankgod I stopped playing them timeeeeeeeee ago lol
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