New stakes and Prizes

aaamusements.co.uk · Post by **aaamusements.co.uk** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:18 pm

mr lugsy wrote:a 6 foot cardboard effigy of mr edmonds himself ,reputably worth 200 pounds

Worth every penny for voodoo purposes.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:00 pm

borgcontact4 wrote:The Technical standards by which manufacturers now have to live by allow non random games to stay in the market. Manufacturers do not have to submit Cat C.
We ave been told by our directors that we will be going 50p with £60.00 prize. So thats what maybe the industry will go with as we normally keep in line with the other guys in the biz.

Will these mc/s still"roll"as we know it then mate?

borgcontact4 · Post by **borgcontact4** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:14 pm

OK two replies, firstly no need to guess, I am an industry guy and have always sought to inform objectively and most people who read my posts will know.
Yes you are correct, it is the retailers/brewers who dictate pricing and stakes, as they have always, so they say, seen an uplift when stakes and prizes increase. In fact they are fooling themselves as machines on 10p play back with £5.00 prizes were earning as much as machines now on 50p and £35.00. But you can't tell a retailer/brewer. So the manufacturers have their hands tied and will submit. However word in the trade is that the government will not give 60p and £60 but more likely 50p... £50. But we will have to wait until consultation period is complete 31st October . Then they will discuss and announcement expected, sometime late November or even early December. As we have a big trade show in January the industry is not a happy lot.
OK Betchrider... I hope so !!! If not, then trouble at mill!!!!!!

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:36 pm

Was just chatting about it the other day to a pal and we were wondering,if there gonna"roll" still will it still be 3 maybe 4 pots?and what will they do regarding hoppper sizes what with all the tooling?

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:27 am

not long to wait on the desision on this! personally i hope they just increase the jackpot, cos with us all on the verge of recession, an increase in the stake will push most suppliers/pubs over the edge...... and that aint good!!

ob · Post by ob » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:31 am

betchrider wrote:Was just chatting about it the other day to a pal and we were wondering,if there gonna"roll" still will it still be 3 maybe 4 pots?and what will they do regarding hoppper sizes what with all the tooling?

most reds on £35 its 2 pots not 3/4, although the latter is possible its rare without an undue cost from ready...

as for bfm, erm the roll is 2 jp's usually not 3, ie. cleudo etc. ( the lines one doesnt count into the roll boys ), the DOND ones can do 3+ pots roll, but the cycle is so huge its pointless even thinking about.

chav666 · Post by **chav666** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:54 am

To be honest, I think most of the guys here are missing the point totally. The BIG issue we have is our currency. We are stuck with a £1 coin as our largest denomination coin. The £2 coin never really took off did it! You older guys still have the mindset that a pounds a pound - but it AINT! it's only worth around 30p compared to 15 years ago. How can you possibly expect to get a game from a quid! haha especially with a JP of £25+.... Todays casual punter doesn't mind sticking a fiver in for a play and getting 10 plays. To them a fiver is as valuable as we used to think a couple of quid was. You all underestimate the casual punters view on disposable cash.
The answer - £1 play - £40 Jackpot - nice stake/JP ratio. Oh yeah, a £5 coin would help, and discontinue the £5 note to force it into use.... mmmmm thats gonna happen!
We are restricted with our currency format. It hasn't changed in 20 years that i've been playing, but everything else has. Who's to blame for that? No one in the gaming industry, for sure...

Dunhamzzz · Post by **Dunhamzzz** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:03 am

Machines need to have a Minimal win per game restriction, ie if £30 in you guaranteed a £10er or some form of law.....

Ok obviously not for us but for this to be appealing to the general public

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:47 am

Yes you are right that there needs to be some sort of 'safety net' so that the casual players feel as though they are getting a game, and therefore vaue, for their money.

Red obviously attempted to embrace this concept when they introduced software which activated the 'safe cash' on machines such as Crazy Cash Point, when played on 50p. Giving you that extra 6%, and ensuring that when you got a board off your £10 note and the first gamble lost, you would still 'win' a pound....

The fault with that software aside, it wasn't much good if you were a player trying to force it, but a lot better than shovelling up to £20 coins in a SMTM on mega spin and seeing the credits disappearing before the coins have even reached the cashbox........

Silence is golden..........

Mystery_Plum · Post by **Mystery_Plum** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:50 pm

Losing game counts have been around for years, the most hideous examples can be seen on the late Maygay stuff. Fucking lazy and disgusting method of control.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:51 pm

ob wrote:
betchrider wrote:Was just chatting about it the other day to a pal and we were wondering,if there gonna"roll" still will it still be 3 maybe 4 pots?and what will they do regarding hoppper sizes what with all the tooling?
most reds on £35 its 2 pots not 3/4, although the latter is possible its rare without an undue cost from ready...

as for bfm, erm the roll is 2 jp's usually not 3, ie. cleudo etc. ( the lines one doesnt count into the roll boys ), the DOND ones can do 3+ pots roll, but the cycle is so huge its pointless even thinking about.

I did say "3 maybe 4 pots" so 1 pot plus 2 rpts ok?Plus the rare MAYBE 4th pot

wildcat · Post by **wildcat** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:46 am

we'll just have to wait and see!!!