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09-06-2006, 11:59 AM
Anyway, I write / compose / produce music in my studio when I've some spare time

What kind of thing do you make? I make decentish generic drum and bass - maybe we can write an ITBox tribute song.

Will have to upload my Word Up Christmas song - it has Mariah Careyesque warbling, hip-hop grunts, 'give-the-dog-a-bone' Xmas bells, DaveJon baiting and spoken word Word Up strategy tips - all performed by yours truly. It's truly an abomination. 8)

If somebody can host it, I'll upload it for everyone's listening pleasure.

Istenem
09-06-2006, 12:13 PM
Will have to upload my Word Up Christmas song

sorry to stray off topic.

but is this for real Bob? or one of your elaborate hoaxes? i need to hear this phantom groove to inspire me towards lexicographical heroism.

09-06-2006, 01:10 PM
but is this for real Bob? or one of your elaborate hoaxes? i need to hear this phantom groove to inspire me towards lexicographical heroism.

It is absolutely real - as real as my wax uncle and the pants on my head.

No, honestly, it is very real. All I need is a place to put it on the interweb and you can all be inspired to new heights of quiz machine mediocrity by its unemulatable excellence.

Istenem
09-06-2006, 01:15 PM
Bob, that is triumphantly sad.

could it not replace your (frankly rather poor) VB national anthem on Ernest's website?

09-06-2006, 02:19 PM
Bob, that is triumphantly sad.

could it not replace your (frankly rather poor) VB national anthem on Ernest's website?

Yes, and, perhaps. Ernest wasn't too keen on it, as it humiliates his effort.

I also think he doesn't like the increasing commercialisation of Christmas by semi-professional quiz machine players, especially in summertime.

09-06-2006, 07:11 PM
Here it is - get ready for the musical SWP tribute song ride of your lives, folks.

http://www.filefactory.com/?b998a1

tka
09-06-2006, 07:43 PM
I might be being stupid but it doesn't work on the free download
and I'm not paying $1 for it :)

09-06-2006, 09:55 PM
I might be being stupid but it doesn't work on the free download
and I'm not paying $1 for it :)

hmm that sucks - I hadn't tried to d'l it myself as I'm on dial-up and had spent long enough uploading it in the first place. Will put it somewhere else.

If anyone knows anywhere that allows hosting and free d'ls, then pls tell me!

BJ2006
09-06-2006, 11:49 PM
Worked fine for me though I had to click a number of different options before it worked. You could try
http://rapidshare.de/ which I think is better for the downloader.

Thanks VB, it gave me a laugh!

Matt Vinyl
10-06-2006, 07:52 AM
Heh heh, brilliant! :)

I find myself into so many different styles that I end up sitting infront of a blank 'Sonar' screen scratching my head and watching the cat catch a bird in the garden... 'Writers' block' is the single most annoying thing. And the more you think about it, the worse it gets...

Main Influences, however:

- Delerium
- Robert Miles (more recent obscure stuff)
- Lunik
- Conjure One

Most music that even sniffs of 'the charts' pisses me off nowadays... Although the appearance of more 'real' bands is a good thing, and I'm impressed with 'Melted Cheese Face*' Keane as I didn't realise they don't actually use any guitars in their music, but it sounds like they use two or three!

*Quoted from the best selling book: "Is it Just Me, or is Everything Shit?"

:)

10-06-2006, 08:43 AM
Word Up song lyrics:

[Chorus]
Been many years playing Word Up
On the IT Box
Been many years bobbing away
And I still ain't lost
Been many years heading up those scores
Showing them who's boss
Been many years playing Word Up
On the IT Box

[Bob's Xmas message]
To all those Bob fans out there
I hope you have a great Christmas
Keep the grid square
Make sure you pair up those Qs and Us
(Apart from QWERTY)
And, always remember:
When it comes to the end
Keep your head
Or else you'll be dead

[Parting shot]
2070 - too good! [the song showing its age]
Wiz, we shat on you
Keble gays, we shat on you
Dave and Jon, we shat on you

Who's going to be next to make a musical tribute to their favourite SWP game? Bring on the fruitchat compilation album. 8)

10-06-2006, 08:47 AM
'Writers' block' is the single most annoying thing. And the more you think about it, the worse it gets...


Yeah, I had a flurry of productivity a few months ago - polished off some tunes and sent demos off, but haven't done anything since due to a complete lack of inspiration. I should get a page on the net and post my 'proper' stuff up, really. Have you got one, Matt?

tka
10-06-2006, 09:10 AM
I just managed to make it work. Have to say it is half decent Bob, well done. Can't see it getting to number one though.
Surely it is an itbox (to rhyme with shit) rather than an itbox (to rhyme with shite) ?
I especially enjoyed the Christmas bells :D

tka
10-06-2006, 08:44 PM
The question is when?

Then you sing then you ask it again. Any answer yet? :wink:

Matt Vinyl
11-06-2006, 09:29 AM
Not got a web page / site yet at all. I really should get around to that too! I've only ever finished two or three pieces that I am satisfied with... :( I find myself starting, losing interest in it, and re-starting again...

:)

11-06-2006, 12:27 PM
Not got a web page / site yet at all. I really should get around to that too! I've only ever finished two or three pieces that I am satisfied with... :( I find myself starting, losing interest in it, and re-starting again...

:)

You need discipline, son, discipline!

Here's the way to do it IMHO, sequentially:

1) before doing anything have a good idea of the general shape of the song - genre, mood, structure etc. This, ultimately, will provide the over-arching vision that will enable and drive you to finish it.

2) farm a new batch of samples/create new patches etc. These are the fresh raw materials that will ensure that you don't just feel you're rehashing the same old stuff on your PC. To my mind, this is crucial - if you have some sweet new sounds to play with, you will be dying to get them into a new track.

3) make sure the first element you have, be it a riff, break, vocal line etc, is tight, providing impetus to the creation of the rest of the track. If you start with a lame riff, no amount of layering or creative FX further down the line will make it sound tasty.

4) once you have a general idea of where it's going, sit down and work hard for a few hours. Focus on whether new elements being introduced into the track sit well - if you can't get something to work, then best bin it before you lose your original vision.

5) as the composition and structure is coming together, start cross-referencing to professional stuff. Compare the use of sound-layering (eg topping basslines with notes in the mids), relative volumes of bass/mids/treble and absolute apparent volume (ie. the use of compression).

6) finally, dedicate an hour or two to 'polishing' - cut off unnecessary frequencies using EQing, chop tails off samples, bin sounds that are inaudible in the mix, EQ off sounds at 20hz and below etc.

Obviously, the VB Word Up song is a shining example of the results of taking such a professional approach. :shock:

Istenem
12-06-2006, 08:40 AM
that is my new favourite song ever.

(edit: one of my colleagues just said "what is that dreadful tinny whining". i work with a bunch of philistines.)

Mattb
12-06-2006, 09:49 AM
Haha, thats great! :lol: :D

Now, if you were on Pop Idol (should that be Bob idol?) i can imagine Simon Cowell saying: 'If the show was no talent and i cant sing Idol, you'd be a winner!'

Seriously, though backing and melody is muchos decent. The Xmas messgae sounds very much a cut from like Shakin' Stevens - Merry Xmas Everyone....is he a major influence? :wink: :P

Matt