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Cardinal Sin
21-04-2006, 09:45 AM
So come on chaps, at least one of you has to be either working for, or on good terms with someone who works for, one of the big cheeses in the Quiz Machine world.

* People imparting knowledge about games which could not possibly be known without inside help...

* Phrases like "Demmerz is God" appearing in quiz machines?? Surely only someone who posts on this board and enjoys banterizing with the other users would go to that extent?

Apart from David Healy, I'd put money on more than one of you having links with the other side...

I'm going to do some investigating. You mark my words...

Matt Vinyl
21-04-2006, 10:06 AM
I too would be interested in uncovering some contacts - I've a few potential games ready and waiting... :)

:)

Istenem
21-04-2006, 10:10 AM
like the avatar for this sleuthing exploit Your Eminence.

i have suspicions, as far as i'm concerned industry folk are welcome here:
Johnny Wishbone is an insider, as is Mat Ingram, i can't pigeon-hole Watergate though. Nic was a gwhl employee who used to post some good stuff but he seems to have been gagged.

I also know of a couple of people who look in but don't often post. Quizard is almost certainly industry, he is often around but only reading.

Nil Satis
21-04-2006, 10:56 AM
I can only speak for myself but I'm definitely not an industry insider - if I were, I'd have been fired years ago for moaning about how rubbish most of the modern games are and how things were so much better in the old days!

:wink:

Cardinal Sin
21-04-2006, 11:16 AM
Thank you gentlemen, for helping me with my enquiries.

I'm still rummaging through my clues, but in the meantime, I'm wondering how certain parties have knowledge of the W**d-*p dictionary in minutae?

Ernest W. Quality
21-04-2006, 02:01 PM
Myself and the other Bobsketeers are certainly kosher. A lot of our dictionary knowledge is based on trial and error. On my site you can see in the "long words" bit, I point out that they may well fail to be accepted... I was also recently scuppered when the game didn't accept my effort of TEMPESTUOUSNESS (if I'd known in advance, wouldn't have bothered of course).

QuizMaster
21-04-2006, 03:10 PM
I think Blob may be an industry insider...........

Weyland
21-04-2006, 07:28 PM
This could, of course, be an elaborate double bluff... ;)

I'm waitng for a question from the Quiz forum to come up in a new game...

Mat Ingram
21-04-2006, 07:30 PM
i have suspicions, as far as i'm concerned industry folk are welcome here:
Johnny Wishbone is an insider, as is Mat Ingram,

It's a fair cop go'vner. :(

SWP
21-04-2006, 07:36 PM
mmm no TEMPESTUOUSNESS..
that's got me thinking..

HAve you seen it accept TANGENTIAL eqw?


PS. Why do we not refer to W**d-*p by name? Is it like actors with that Scottish Play?

Mat Ingram
21-04-2006, 07:52 PM
Because all threads end up talking about Word Up, which did not come out of Revolution Games, and is thus not worth talking about.

SWP
21-04-2006, 07:58 PM
Well let's ask the thread originator, which case are you trying to solve here?

"The Hidden Insiders"

or..

"The Missing Dictionary of Dr. WU"

??

Mat Ingram
21-04-2006, 08:02 PM
You see, I spoke the banned words, and now the thread has gone off topic.

SWP
21-04-2006, 08:04 PM
No. I'm trying to get the thread ON topic. What is cardinal looking for here, a list of insiders or a list of words?

Mat Ingram
21-04-2006, 08:10 PM
Oh Sorry,
Words for what?

Cardinal Sin
21-04-2006, 08:47 PM
I've no axe to grind with any folk working for the gaming industry who frequent this board. I regularly lose money on various quiz machines, and aside from the spoilers and occasional bugs, have no complaints about losing.

I don't expect lists of permissible words from The Game Which Cannot Be Mentioned to be posted. I'm not looking to see reams of answers to obscure questions to help me attain that elusive 1 prize on Monopoly. Furthermore, I do not want anyone who is involved with the industry to compromise their position.

However, I gather there are quite a few "insiders" often visiting this forum to gain a better understanding of what quiz players think of their products and ideas. It would therefore be interesting, not to mention appreciated by people like me who regularly play your games, to learn about your opinons on the various topics appearing on this forum.

Weyland
22-04-2006, 12:21 AM
Fair enough. But it could be said that by posting regularly on this board, we expose ourselves as hardcore players. Now, any entertainment industry is far more likely to be concerned with the casual user, as there's so many more of them, and they provide most of the revenue. So therefore, our opinions are unlikely to match that of the vast majority of users... :P

I mean, how many times has a machine been vilified on this forum, only to stay near the top of the charts for weeks on end?

David Healy
22-04-2006, 02:16 AM
Apart from David Healy, I'd put money on more than one of you having links with the other side...

I'm going to do some investigating. You mark my words...


Sorry cardinal, I am confused - does this mean I am an industry insider or not. It would be nice to know which side of the fence I am on.

For what it's worth, I don't understand some of the hostility to Millionaire on the forum (can't comment on the new version as I have yet to see it). Certain people have said it is boring - surely you shouldn't be playing that many games in a session for it to become boring, should you? It's not as if you're standing there answering question after question with no prospect of a (decent) prize.

In fact, can anyone give me an example of a poor game developed by JPM?


ps Sorry to interrupt your Word Up discussion forum with a mention of a quiz machine. Please continue to discuss who has the largest dic (tionary).

WaterGate
22-04-2006, 11:13 AM
Copped! :D I work in the pub industry! Hic!

Cardinal Sin
22-04-2006, 11:51 AM
Sorry cardinal, I am confused - does this mean I am an industry insider or not. It would be nice to know which side of the fence I am on.

Sorry David, you just seemed like a shadowy figure, lurking around the quiz machine forum . just having a sly dig. I know there are loads more folk who don't really post, I'm not suggesting people post if they have nothing to say!



In fact, can anyone give me an example of a poor game developed by JPM?


Apart from the new Millionaire, JPM's have generally been pretty fair (and profitable). I never liked Cluedo, but I think most people feel differently.

Nil Satis
23-04-2006, 04:50 PM
by posting regularly on this board, we expose ourselves as hardcore players. Now, any entertainment industry is far more likely to be concerned with the casual user, as there's so many more of them, and they provide most of the revenue.

I agree partly with this, Weyland, but also feel that we regular players (and hopefully regular winners!) do have a role to play in that we 'test' a game much more intensively than the average casual player and quickly spot its flaws and strengths. OK, these sometimes relate to how easy/difficult a game is to win serious money on, which isn't usually the concern of the casual players who are normally delighted with a 1 win, but we can also identify when a game will be a success generally or not.

Which brings me to...


For what it's worth, I don't understand some of the hostility to Millionaire on the forum (can't comment on the new version as I have yet to see it).

I have probably been responsible for about 50% of both sides of this! - supporting and praising the previous versions of Millionaire and also vilifying the 2006 version. If this was a brand new game I would have simply played it a few times then either discarded it in disgust or left it for my 'reserve list' of games to play with the odd 50p or if there is nothing else available. The fact that someone has seen fit to take a classic game however and destroy just about everything that made it a classic is for me mystifying - it's like the worst type of Hollywood remake (Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes anyone?).

N.B. I don't believe JPM are actually the culprits here - I think QuizMaster can confirm this...

Which brings me back to my original point. I would have LOVED it if some industry insiders had asked me or a few of the other serious players to have a look at Millionaire 2006 before its release. OK, they may have disagreed or chosen to ignore our advice but they would at least have been informed in advance of what a cowpat their new game was!